Paul 1405>> this bloke who lived only 2 blocks from Tony Abbott when he was a kid reckons Abbott used to pull the wings off flies when he was 6 years old. Why does that not surprise me?

Yes Paul, it exhibits exceptional hand eye co ordination….does it not?

Paul>> Just between you and me I've met 4 PM's in my lifetime, and the person I thought was the nicest personally was old Billy Mcmahon, Bill would have made a great next door neighbor, but as a PM he was a bit of a DH.<<

Well Paul your opinion of Billy McMahon must hold water given you have first hand exut I question your jugement given the following:

>>The ABC’s Chris Uhlmann said in 2004 a senior Labor staffer was so captivated by the unflattering portrait of Billy McMahon in Paul Hasluck’s diary in March 1968 that he copied it and circulated it among party colleagues with the question: ‘Who does this remind you of?

"We confess to a dislike of him. The longer one is associated with him the deeper the contempt for him grows and we find it hard to allow him any merit. Disloyal, devious, dishonest, untrustworthy, petty, cowardly —We find him a contemptible creature."

I will leave you with this Kevvy utterance Paul:

“Where’s my fooking lunch. I’m the PM and I want MY fooking special lunch.”

Yes Paul the RAAF stewardess and this makeup artist didn’t see the REAL Kev….the one you know and obviously admire for his commonality and people skills. Perhaps you should have cooked his dinner and did his hair.

The real Kevin Rudd has never left but with a bit of luck several more voters have developed some sense in the past weeks & he'll be gone. He'll still be maggotting off us but then he's not Robinson Crusoe there.
He should not be called Prime Minister, rather Prime wrecker of Australia.

does not surprise me, have always thought Rudd was an actor putting on his nice face for cameras but not so pleasant to others behind the scenes.

Yes while not dead yet I have an intend to continue, taken a break from OLO.
A post not unlike some seen here reminded me, for some we are just a glass house to hurl rocks at each other from, no substitute for true debate.
I believe it is near certain Abbott will win.
And [not one word is not my true view] he is not ready for the task.
Labor is tainted by the actions of some within its own ranks, and some who recently departed.
It took eight years for Australia to see the mess and lack of action the 1975 election of a Liberal government bought with it.
Today blinded by Labors troubles we are about to see the very people who need him most,place the blame on Rudd,s shoulders.
Any clear headed debate would not hide Labors faults.
But too it would not fail to confront the wooden man that is Tony Abbott until his victory.
Gina/ Murdock Miners and Howard prop the man up.
But we will cry at the truth, we have seen Labors backbone conned and as it always has, turn on Labor.
On Monday as is always the case, they will trot in to work shaking their heads and lie, yes say as they do always I never voted for them.
I smell a death like smell, as the young on all sides refuse to get involved and take the lead in both major party,s.
We all will suffer if minor party,s control who ever wins this election.
My regards to all.
By the way that includes the Liberals here,and? yes while hoping for a failure from every minor party, ,we are not Egypt we should remember our opponents are not evil but just think other than we do.

Quite amusing, don't you reckon?

Good old Aussie politics.

I have to say that you know you're delving into a cutting edge forum when the likes of Shadow Minister post some facebook gossip on Kevvie's treatment of a make-up artist.

Still, at least he didn't punch the wall on either side of her head.

(That would have shown real character)

I've not seen any evidence that the woman has been heavied into removing the post. Without evidence it seems more likely that she has put up her comments with an intended target audience of her friends and found herself in the middle of a political storm/whirlwind and not wanted to be there. Also having comments about clients go public is not a good look professionally and from that perspective better removed.

The treatment of others is consistent with the way both are described elsewhere. Hardly likely that anyone on the Labor side believes they are supporting a genuinely nice guy for the top job.

If the issue is the 'real' Kevin Rudd then people could be asking how his positive politics are working out. They could be wondering why he again leads the Labor party after his no circumstances commitment and if anybody actually thinks he meant it at the time. That's the character of the man some want to continue as PM.

Abbott has some big flaws in my view but not a patch on Rudd in that regard.

R0bert