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Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 15 August 2013 10:09:43 AM
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@suseonline
You are bringing in Christianity? Good. 1. Are you a practising Christian? 2. Do you attend worship every Sunday ? 3. Do you read the bible everyday 4. Do you pray without ceasing 5. When was the last time you told someone of the love of God and Jesus? The reason i asked the above questions is simple. If you are a serious practising Christian, then you should know that at best, you can argue for a position not to say no to capital punishment. Now, can I suggest you read the following. http://ltpalculict.wordpress.com/2010/02/27/john-piper-what-makes-it-alright-for-god-to-kill-women-and-children/ http://www.gotquestions.org/death-penalty.html http://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2011/09/what-does-the-bible-say-about-capital-punishment/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6yCTcnzmeM john piper and john macarthur, 2 of the foremost and respected modern day theologians, do not have any issues with capital punishment and btw, if you have problems with jpiper's views at the youtube clip, please dont dismiss them, try to do more bible study on the issue and i believe you will come round to the same views. @rehctub for a start, i can agree to that what about repeat offence murderers who confessed to their crimes? do you agree we should also hang them? Posted by platypus1900, Thursday, 15 August 2013 12:48:51 PM
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Suseonline,
I have always maintained that this is an incorrect translation. I'm convinced it was meant to be thou "shall not murder." Posted by individual, Thursday, 15 August 2013 12:50:35 PM
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@individual
i see plenty of superficial quotes and views on christianity and the teachings of the bible guess we will have to patiently teach proper exegesis of the scriptures Posted by platypus1900, Thursday, 15 August 2013 1:22:10 PM
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Platy>> in the case of the police officer being shot at point blank in the presence of many witness, i.e. 100% sure (re: Tamworth case), would you agree to death sentence for the murderer?<<
Yes I would agree plat…..but how do you legislate for such an occurrence? At the scene witness testimony from unassociated third parties is more than valid but when it comes to let’s say surveillance video, technology means that you cannot believe what your eye sees so CCTV footage can be suspect. As I said it would be mine field to legislate so I still consider capital punishment a no go. But I believe the penal system is soft as butter in Australia. A sentence of life with hard labour should be the punishment. Six days a week of toil and your only release is through death would see some inmates take their own lives and that would be a just repayment for the crime. Plat earlier I described the crimes that I believe should carry a mandatory death sentence, but because innocents have been executed by the state before I believe that those convicted of premeditated murder , murder during a felony or murder of a law officer, paramedic , ambo, or firey should receive a life sentence under my previously stated terms of imprisonment. I’m not soft sport, but to be executed by the state for something you did not do has a psychological plane to it that is as close to a living nightmare as you can get, until the state murders you anyhow. I am not protecting the guilty, I am protecting the innocent with my stance. Posted by sonofgloin, Thursday, 15 August 2013 2:21:50 PM
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Dear platypus1900,
Firstly why ask someone “Do you pray without ceasing” when you patently do not yourself. If you did how would you afford to come on this forum to blaspheme and distort the Christian message as you are now thus engaged? Christ made a strong statement on capital punishment when he was presented with the young woman accused of adultery; All the people came to him, and he sat down and taught them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you ibe the first to throw a stone at her.” And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.” John 8:2-11 I have a slight interest in seeing how you will dampen this message from Christ, what tricks and deceptions you will employ to try and mould Christ to your perspective, but slight is the best I can muster. Cont... Posted by csteele, Thursday, 15 August 2013 4:43:12 PM
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For that, the penalty is death.
Now caught in the act means caught red handed by a person of authority, JP, Police, etc, not Joe average on a vendetta.