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death penalty and parole for convicted murderers

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@Lexi

Wow..bravo.
Then we are in agreement that with the due process of the law, and when the accused is found guilty, they are to be hanged and you will have no objections?

Good
Then we are on the same page.
Posted by platypus1900, Saturday, 17 August 2013 7:29:01 PM
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Dear Lexi,

The Law (or the Judiciary) is indeed supposed to be impartial, but there are some problems when the 'Law' is constructed by politicians for purposes other than justice or the public interest - and indeed sometimes the Law is an ass.

Cases in point:
a) Where the US legislates to protect some food processors from litigation which might otherwise be legitimately brought by any Joe Citizen;
b) Where the US legislates to exempt oil and gas miners from a 'Clean Water Act' (ie from otherwise standard environmental protection provisions);
c) Where the US legislates to protect the manufacturers of genetically modified crops/seeds - sometimes acting to the direct detriment of growers of non-modified crops;
d) Where the NSW government plans to introduce legislation (Law) to enable an overturning of a finding of the Land and Environment Court in favour of residents opposing expansion of a Rio Tinto open-cut coalmine;
e) Where governments renege on environmental assurances regarding marine reserves, agricultural land, or heritage forests, in response to lobbying by the relevant 'exploitation' interests, or to gain votes in an upcoming election. (And to hell with the interests of future generations, biodiversity, bees, or previous commitments);
f) When governments legislate to ensure that economic interests outweigh any other primary considerations when assessing development applications (or as former NSW Minister for Mining and Energy - amongst other things - once is reported to have stated "if it's worth mining, it will be");
g) When Corporatism and the Mighty Buck are of foremost and paramount concern in the drafting of legislation generally.

Additionally, we have judges and courts reviewing and revising the operation of the 'law', such that criminals are given cake-walk sentences (or are let off altogether) because of all sorts of constructed 'outs' or 'technicalities' - or even due to misplaced 'compassion'. (Half off for showing 'repentance'?)

Asses abounding; and average good old honest Joe Mugg bearing the brunt, the cost, and the ultimate repercussions.

Honesty in sentencing? In whose pipe-dream?
Posted by Saltpetre, Saturday, 17 August 2013 10:31:00 PM
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Honesty in sentencing?
Saltpetre,
Yes, like that child murderer muslim bloke in Qld who got $3000 compensation a few days ago because his prison food wasn't to his religious needs. Justice indeed !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 18 August 2013 7:49:23 AM
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Dear Saltpetre,

I did state earlier that the law doesn't always
get it right. What complicates things is that
in this country we have several legal systems,
rather than one. That's because Australia is
a federation of six states and each state has
its own system of state courts and state laws that
apply only within the state. On top of that Australia
has a system of federal courts and federal laws that
apply in all parts of the country.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 18 August 2013 10:55:52 AM
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@salt

i am a christian
in the past, i used to struggle with the bible teaching on submission to the law and the govt, esp when there are flaws like what you have stated

but nowadays, i come around
i submit
the Word of God is right (as it should be)
except when Caesar ask me to worship him as God
then the answer is NO.

a bad govt is better no govt and lawlessness

cheers
Posted by platypus1900, Sunday, 18 August 2013 10:59:15 AM
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Dear Platypus900,

“this bloke should have been shot or hanged”

“i respect the laws of the neighbouring countries who hang and shot such drug criminals.
how i wish our country can have the moral strength to make tough decisions like this”

Calling yourself a Christian but turning you back on the words and lessons of Christ just doesn't wash I'm afraid.

Matthew 7:20 “Therefore by their fruits you will know them.”
Posted by csteele, Sunday, 18 August 2013 10:46:46 PM
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