Banjo yes mate have the old mans memory trouble.
Know the name just needed you push.
Know to the full story, if you are out there Peter,I remember your pain still.
Past posts told about the impacts those grubs had on serving police who had to see the results.
Local bloke took two kids and mum and murdered them brutally , it too was as bad as that.
I never want such released ever, but still stand by my thoughts we gain nothing by killing them, except re leaving their pain.
Let them suffer till a natural death ends their pain.

Belly,
I suffer from same 'old mans memory' some things clear as a bell, others need a prod.

I am ashamed I cannot recall the full names of the girls raped and murdered on the South coast. Collins was one girls surname. I don't recall the murderers names. Horrible stuff.

@lexi

mahatma gandhi
sure your want to follow him?
go read his life story
i spent 10 years working there and i think i earned a little right to tell you a little more about him

i agree with Hasbeen
you write well... that is about all

may you quote shakespeare to the murderer of your spouse or children or close family members

@Hasbeen
i agree with most of your points except death for rapists
injustice and heinous crime committed...but death sentence may not be appropriate in this instance
i will go as far as castration for repeated offenders
even life sentence with no parole (makes me sick that i have to support this criminal with my taxes paid but i guess we have to or Lexi will say we are barbaric like the malaysians and the indonesians)

i rest my case

Dear Platypus,

I am well acquainted with Gandi and his teachings.
However I gave the quote that I did not because
I am a follower of his by any stretch of the imagination,
but simply because I thought that quote was an appropriate
one in this discussion. You should be intelligent enough
to sort that out for yourself.

As for giving me permission to quote Shakespeare(sic) to murderers
of my family members? That was an OMG moment.
Certainly lowering the bar on this discussion.
I would have thought you were better
than that. But you live and learn.

Hi platypus1900,

My solution would be to convert prisons into secure production facilities. They would be places of education, skilling, social development, exams and segregation from the society whose laws they have breached.

The facility would be commercially run manufacturing business and be required to cover its own costs and generate revenue to be paid back to victims as a compensation dividend to cover damages, legal costs, health treatment for victims and other claims.

The inmates get free food and board, education, trade skills, healthcare and rehab in the form of social skills assessments. In addition to passing the required exams, they must demonstrate their ability to deal with other inmates in domestic, social and working environments.

If they pass the required exams and assessments they are eligible for release on the day their sentence expires, otherwise they stay there until they do. Repeat offenders get to do it all again.

Electives such as remote learning degrees would only be allowed upon maintaining all milestones on their core tasks. They would not be funded by the taxpayer but covered by a HEX fee system.

The worst of the worst get the same opportunities as minor offenders but minimum sentences will need to reflect the severity of the crime yet leave room to provide an incentive to reform.

The products they might manufacture could include equipment for the disabled, electronic aids, prosthetics, repair and refurbishment and a range of specialized items that would otherwise be subsidized though the public healthcare system.

All qualifications and assessments must be at least equivalent to those recognized in the commercial world; this would create the trust employers would need to hire them into the workforce upon release.

No more parole boards, human rights lawyers, public angst about sentences/early releases, public costs for facilities or salaries and a reduction in the number of bureaucrats.

I’m not sure about the death penalty because I don’t see it as a deterrent, just a guarantee that there will be no repeat offense. Perhaps a life sentence plus a one strike and you’re dead policy?

as Lexi said
the bar is very low
yes...perhaps we should let this thread rest

finally, if i have a choice

1. i will not want a single cent of my tax be used to support a convicted murderer in jail for life

2. i will not have sympathy when no law enforcement officers will answer an emergency call to a life threatening situation at a residence of someone like Lexi

have a good day

signed
"not so clever"