WMT: "Turkey and Lebanon and to a lesser extent Indonesia were the only Muslim nations which had a majority of citizens against these laws."

Turkey now has an Islamic friendly Government that is trying to install Sharia Law by stealth. One Law at a time. That's why the people are revolting at the moment.

No Lebanon doesn't have Sharia Law enshrined, but does the Government control the people. No. All the Muslim Sects control the Laws within their own areas & the Government can't control them or even want to in case they get accidentally blown up or shot, which seems to happen with regularity.

Indonesia? Take Ache. Ache has Sharia Law & it’s strictly enforced. New rules just last week forbidding women to work in an office where men work. There are a couple of other provinces where Sharia is strictly enforced as well but Ache is the worst. Oh & a decree lately. Women are not to cut up carrots, zucchinis, cucumbers or eat bananas because they look like penises & that might give them bad ideas.

Cohenite: The anti-abortionists are violent nutters, few in number with no inherent plan to replace the secular structure.

Unlike Muslims of any description who do. Even your friend Anti. Ask them in front of their local Imam some time, and then see what sort of answer you get. Different, I bet. Then he won’t be your friend any more for embarrassing him.

Anti: People who ride motorcycles are much more desirable immigrants,

Yes I just had one this morning. Wrong side of the road, doing about 130kph, weaving all over the place. We get them all the time out this way. Always going somewhere to die. The going rate is about one a month, dead. Unfortunately they take other people with them.

Lexi: To say that the women on this discussion are apologists for Islam is simply wrong. That's like saying that the men on this discussion are narrow-minded bigots.

Most of the women in these discussions are all for defending Muslims. I would say Cohenite is just about spot on. As for being Narrow Minded Bigots. According to poirot, us men are, & if she says so then that must be right.

see this

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplayer/cbnplayer.swf?aid=17933

the trojan horse is in paris
too late

for those who are not afraid
for those who are open minded
for those who think we are afraid

may this not happen to our cities

So whats new Platapus ?
They do that in Lakemba in Sydney now !
Every FRiday they block off the street the Mosque is in.
It is not legal, but so what, they tell the police that they cannot
interfere with their praying.

Dear Platypus,

I do not want to discuss same -sex marriange.
The only reasons that I brought it up was the
fact that I was watching the program on television
and in the audience there were religious leaders
from various faiths who could not agree amongst
themselves on this subject. They all had different
points of view on the topic. There were for example four
rabbis - who interpreted the teachings of their Holy Book
differently. Each of them having a different perspective.
And that was the point that I was trying to make.
Each religious Holy Book - is interpreted differently
by different teachers. Therefore your claim of trying to
convince us that all Muslims practice their faith in
exactly the same way is as I stated earlier - just plain
silly.

And sweeping generalisations add no credibility to the
argument. Give us some evidence to support your outlandish
claims. Just who exactly wants to convert this country of
ours to the Islam faith. And, where does the Islamic
Council stand on Shariah law? Do you even know what
Shariah Law is - and what it means? It's all very well
to blab on - but do you really know what you're talking
about? BTW - this is Australia, not the middle-east -
the conditions here are totally different.

@Lexi

tell me what is your response to the post before yours?

illegal praying on the streets of Sydney
australia is different from paris?
different from london?

once their numbers increases, my dear Lexi, dont come crying about generalisations

one more time...have you lived in a country where muslims are >15% of the population
if not, you are just a writer, quite an elegant writer.
on the other hand, i have been to all these places and worked and lived in most of them (care to share if you have been out of cushy oz?)

scared?
sure like hell i am scared