platy: lying for Islam is not bad.

It is considered praise worthy thing to do to infidels. Sanctioned by Allah himself. It even a special name "Taqiyya," or Lying for Islam. A great religion, eh.

It's something that many of the apologists here are extremely good at, apart for deflecting, etc.

@jayb

my personal creed is "all lies are bad"

white or black
intentional or unintentional
good intentions or bad intentions

ALL lies are bad.... period

the Father of all lies is the devil himself
i dont want to be his children

as i said..this is one faith i am most wary of

Lexi my belle, there is a basic motivator to everything in “nature” called critical mass.

As example we all have bacteria living quite happy in us for all of our lives, and we only suffer a negative effect when they hit critical mass.

Lexi just on the bacteria scenario have a look at Bonnie Bassler on TED. I love the chick. What her team has discovered will change the way we medicate for all bacterial infections.
http://www.ted.com/talks/bonnie_bassler_on_how_bacteria_communicate.html

The same is true for muslims. They are dormant until they hit critical mass, then they want Sharia and the customs from the 7th century as the social hallmark of the society that have hijacked. But you do not want to acknowledge that so I am just backing up the realists on this thread.

Regarding the painting of all muslims with one brush. If there was a moderate Islam, it is modern Turkey. The Arabs are zealots and the sub continent muslims are stone age. Muslims, whether they are computer programmers or academics, regardless of modernity they will revert if they hit critical mass.

PS Lexi,
Here is something you will understand about critical mass and how easily the good neighbour can become part of a larger beast….Very few Germans resisted the Nazi…..

perhaps this article will convince those who still hold the view that all is well
the contents appeared in an email which i misplaced

http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/muslim-behavior-with-population-increase/

i attest to what is in the article

i work and live and visited the following countries

1. philippine
2. malaysia
3. russia
4. usa
5. most of the european countries including uk of course
6. china
7. nz
8, japan
9. singapore
10. thailand
11. turkey
12. oman
13. UAE
14. bahrain
15. india
16. korea
17. vietnam

i live with the muslims
i know them well

and i am wary of them
on this issue, i agree with sonofgloin
in small numbers...muslims can be quite amicable

"Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat"
authour: Dr. Peter Hammond

http://www.examiner.com/article/as-muslim-population-grows-what-can-happen-to-a-society