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The moderate muslim

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@Bazz

i didnt know as i do not live in sydney
tell me why i am not surprised?
typical of this faith

they are very very touchy
i know of no faith that demands their believers to protect the good name of their prophet and their god
as if the prophet and their god needs protecting

buddhists do not kill you for insulting buddha
jews do not blow you up for insulting moses or yahweh
christians do not issue fatwahs when jesus christ superstar was screened
the hindus do not mob you when you say ganesh looks weird with an elephant nose

and we have the likes of some members here wondering why make a mountain out of an anthill
Posted by platypus1900, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 4:27:46 PM
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"and we have the likes of some members here wondering why make a mountain out of an anthill"

Molehills aside, that sums it up fairly well.

: )
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 4:31:11 PM
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W Trevor says that the fact that 3 Islamic countries do not support specific and particular harsh aspects of sharia means those nations do not support sharia. Read the survey again W Trevor. In all Islamic nations the vast majority of Muslims support sharia. The fact that a few prefer sharia lite to the full thing is neither here nor there.

lexi says "BTW - this is Australia, not the middle-east -
the conditions here are totally different."

So Australian Muslims are different from the Muslims in every other Western nation pressing for sharia? Listen to what "our" Muslims say about the public beheading of the English soldier and sharia in the West to Hayes in her wander down Lakemba:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/sydney_muslims_tell_60_minutes_the_near_beheaded_lee_rigby_was_a_dog/

There are many examples in Australia of Muslims wanting sharia such as Hizb ut-Tahrir:

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/waah_waah/

We see how sharia is being introduced into schools:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/teaching_children_that_fear_of_terrorism_is_racist/

And this one will especially please you Lexi, along with the other womenistas on this thread; at a Muslim school in SA non-Muslim female teachers have been sacked because they wouldn't wear the hijab:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/islamic-college-of-south-australia-head-dress-code-dispute-escalates/story-fni6uo1m-1226693159790

Anyone who says Islam is not spreading sharia in Australia is delusional.
Posted by cohenite, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 4:31:56 PM
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Dear Platypus,

We've lived and worked in the United States for
ten years, travelled all over Mexico, Canada,
and the US. I have friends and colleagues who
are Muslims. And I have attended lectures given
by Prof. A. Saeed. I have read the works of
Antony Loewenstein, Prof. A. Saeed, Ayaan Hirsi Ali,
Malika Oufkir and Michele Fitoussi, to name just a
few.

A fascinating read was the book, "Russia's Islamic
Threat," by Gordon M Hahn. Dr Hahn is one of the leading
experts in the world not only on the so called Islamist
threat as such, but on the entire field of Russia's
Muslim-majority regions, their internal politics and
relations between them and the federal centre in Moscow.
His book is superbly researched and full of insights and
intelligent analysis.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 4:34:40 PM
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Lexi: And sweeping generalisations add no credibility to the argument. Give us some evidence to support your outlandish claims. Just who exactly wants to convert this country of ours to the Islam faith. And, where does the Islamic Council stand on Shariah law?

Well have a look at these Lexi.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/muslims-obligated-to-resist-democracy-say-radicals-20110703-1gxfw.html

http://www.hizb-australia.org/multimedia/videos/item/428-khilafah-conference-2012-videos

http://www.hizb-australia.org/events/item/372-khilafah-conference-2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAFbH5Zkrxo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZUZiz1wVvE

Why we give AID to Islamic countries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGRTDt5w-dM

You never look at these Lexi because I sent similar before & you have refused.

Lexi: this is Australia, not the middle-east the conditions here are totally different.

WTF. You’re spending too much time down the bottom of the garden with the fairies, dear. Either that or get up wind from where they’re burning off the funny weed.

Lexi: And I have attended lectures given by Prof. A. Saeed. I have read the works of Antony Loewenstein, Prof. A. Saeed, Ayaan Hirsi Ali,
Malika Oufkir and Michele Fitoussi, to name just a few. A fascinating read was the book, "Russia's Islamic Threat," by Gordon M Hahn.

For someone who doesn't support Islam (you have stated that previously you spend a lot of time with Muslims & reading their literature. Strange that.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 5:44:24 PM
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@Lexi

i re-read your posts

i think i know where you are coming from i.e. not all muslims are militant extremists
that i can agree

BUT my interactions with them for 50 years tell me this

a. when push comes to shove, they are all muslim brothers
b. when given a choice, they want all infidels to submit to their shariah law ( they will say it applies to them only...dont you believe them)
c. you want to marry in..fine...go get circumcised
d. you want to leave them....HELL NO...that is apostasy and any respectable muslim father will rather kill his own son then to let him defect
e. dying for islam (allah and mohd) is a good thing
f. lying for islam is not bad...it is a temporary evil...so, you never know if your neighbour is lying or not

you watched all the youtubes and videos i posted?
they are real and should not to be taken lightly

i was asking a Secretary of State of a ME country where i had biz there on why they insist their women must cover their face
his answer is alarming

"do you want another man to have the image of your wife in his head when he masturbates"

wow..that is mindblowing... and he is just next in line to the Minister in seniority

anyway, i am very wary of them...very!
Posted by platypus1900, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 6:40:30 PM
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