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FARMERS NOT BEING TOLD OF

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Rojo

Just by the way. I write because people read. People need to understand whats behind the live animal export trade.
They need it explained in a manner thats its very easy to follow because of the lies and proper ganda bull that has been spread over many years.
I have spoken to Ministers and their advisors for example that dont know the truth themselves.
I am very concerned about The Ministers of Australia on BOTH sides of politics that dont have a clue.
I recall for example calling Alaxanda Downers office years ago trying' to explain the Wesfarmers sale to AWB and my concern as to where some of the funds were going. Back then the staff didnt have a clue! about anything, nor the advisor.
I am still on about accreditations for a good reason. I know you dont get it but I cant help that.
Others will read it and pick up on it.
Others understand that its a threat to our country. We need to know where our funds are going and coming into Rojo.
WE have seen just one example of what going on with AWB but are you silly enough to think they were the only company paying transport fees?
You have no idea where I am coming from do you?
Thats fine, thats fine. No worries Rojo. You just stop reading my posts if you are bored or cant understand.
I will just keep on explaing to the Australian Public that Murdoch and Packer along with Bill Heffernan and - who can forget Amanda are just a FEW people with clear conflicts of interests when it comes to animal welfare.

Try going to a paper OWNED by a live animal exporter and say_ Excuse me but there is a ship stuck here in Australian Water with thousands of sheep onboard suffering in the heat.
See how far you get getting the story told.
WE Have
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 4:16:52 AM
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Rojo

By the way. I write because people read. People need to understand whats behind the live animal export trade.
They need it explained in a manner thats easy. I have spoken to Ministers and their advisors that dont know the truth themselves.
I am very concerned about The Ministers of Australia on BOTH sides of politics that dont have a clue.
I recall for example calling Alaxanda Downers office years ago trying' to explain the Wesfarmers sale to AWB and my concern as to where some of the funds were going. The staff didnt have a clue about anything, nor the advisor.
I am on about accreditations for a good reason. This is not farmers markets games. Others understand that its a threat to our country. We need to know where our funds are going and coming into Rojo.
WE have seen just one example of what going on with AWB but are you silly enough to think they were the only company paying transport fees
You have no idea where I am coming from do you.
Thats fine, thats fine. No worries Rojo. You just stop reading my posts if you are bored or cant understand.
I will just keep on explaing to the Australian Public that Murdoch and Packer along with Bill Heffernan and - who can forget Amanda are just a FEW people with clear conflicts of interests when it comes to animal welfare.
60 minutes was the result of a lady in Germany who had sent footage to Australia for over 20! years. She was originally a Minister but left the Church because of their refusal to acknowledge Gods creatures. She morgaged her home to pay to get footage.
Theres some more news you have never heard before.

Try going to a paper OWNED by a live animal exporter and say_ Excuse me but there is a ship stuck here in Australian Water with thousands of sheep onboard suffering in the heat.
See how far you get getting THAT story told.
WE Have- and its all on record for the enquiry.
You guess which one.?
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 4:35:34 AM
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It might help if you learned how to construct a post that is easy to read instead of rambling all over the place. Similarly, get yur facts right. Eg there is not a potential market of 300 billion people (per your first post). Dont exaggerate, or no one will listen.
Posted by Country Gal, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 2:01:27 PM
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Well Wendy, if you really think that WA farmers might be interested
in your ideas, do exactly what everyone else does, place an advert
in one or two of the WA farming papers and see what response you
get. The Countryman or Farm Weekly being the two.

All very simple really, no need for conspiracy theories.
Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 8:15:04 PM
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paleif,
I seem to have a lot to get through.

Yes I do see your bigger picture, and I have always responded with that in mind. The principle is the same no matter the size of an individual buyer, or the number of buyers.
You cannot gain support on rhetoric. There's no point telling farmers how good it's all going to be if there aren't buyers putting it into practice on a reasonable scale. It's as simple as that.

I wasn't aware of special halal vegetable requirements. I'd be interested to know more.

Yes I read some of Nickys comments, and noticed your "little secret" in amongst them. I guess it is all a means to an end.

"Farmers are capable of running their own farms if some people would stop giving them NO other Option BUT LIVE EXPORTS".

By all means give them options. I won't stand in your way. I'm not sure why this would change their capability to run the farms.

post 2.
I find your conspiracy theories entertaining if nothing else. Granted I may not have your intellectual abilities, but I am thankful for what I have.
"Bored"- hardly
"Cant understand"- We all have our failings.

Post 3ish, Is it true the 60 minutes depicted animals that weren't actually Australian?
Posted by rojo, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 9:03:59 PM
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Yabby

Its going to take more than a few adds in a WA paper or any other paper.
I should not have to pay for adds when the farmers federation could put it up in their news articles.
Why cant they stick it on their web site for the farmers. Thats is! IF they really wanted to help the farmers.

I just dont have an extra thirty or fourty grand on top of pretty much funding this office myself for years.
RSPCA QLD help a bit but I pay for trips meeting and everyday costs.
Antje has been up her alomost three years and I fund that myself.


Conspiracy means to conspire. When Farmers Fedaration misinform the farmers telling them live exports are their ONLY answer- knowing full well its not I call that darn right dishonest.

You also keep going on about us having acheived anything in all this time. You assume too much.
Who do you think kicked off the New Halal. I have told you personally by phone we started another one in WA.

I called Bill DArcy as you suggested and also since have spoken with another couple of people there.
fyi Plenty! of Muslim People HAVE MADE PLENTY OF ENQUIRES OVER MANY YEARS To Buy into Halal abattoirs in Australia.

They also! have asked to meet with the farmers to the Farmers Federations and othders but ALWAYS get shoved off back to the live exporters.

Listen Yabby this whole Industry is reeking with lies desception and conspiracys.

So what. You get that in the meat industry.
Doesnt mean I dont have the REAL answer for Australian Farmers. If the farmers take out the middle man they are laughing!
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 12:51:39 AM
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