http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/07/19/11/25/turnbull-tension-in-coalition-albo
I am not, and never will be a Liberal voter.
But like many, find the lurch away from the birth place of their party some Liberals are not Liberals.
The link is stunning, and for me frightening.
Because of it I hope the election as called this Sunday, for next month.
But on the long trudge from loss in 2007 till now the Liberals , or its current leaders seem to have taken several leaps, away from their base.
Just as sure as when I called for Labors leadership change, I think Turnbull is the single hope for true Liberalism.
Will he however be returned before the election or after it?
Some things have moved under Abbott,s feet, they make it a hard task for him to lead a return to his party,s once base.
Like it or not ETS is going to come our way, Turnbull would tell us that in his first ten minutes in leadership.
We must not fail to understand middle path voters swing to both sides, often, and Abbott seems unable to be reason to jump ship.

Come off it Belly.

Surely you have not looked at your mob recently

A party controlled by lefty academics, lefty women's Libbers, criminal union bosses, & inner city latte drinkers has very little in common with the one you joined all those years ago. Just look at the effeminate interpreter you have elected as your leader. Chiefly must be spinning.

The libs, as long as they get rid of the trendies like Turnbull, who have taken over your party, are a damn sight closer to their roots than Labor

Dear Hasbeen,

John Hewson, Malcolm Fraser, Nick Minchin,
and even Joe Hockey (and if the truth be
known, Julie Bishop, and many others) - don't agree
agree with your take of things. Very few actually
wanted Tony Abbott as leader. It was a fluke the man
got the job at all (by one vote). Even he didn't
expect to win.

So stop blowing hot air. Nobody's
buying it - or taking your crowd seriously any more.
And now that you guys can't coast along on
condemnation anymore - and are being held to
scrutiny - you're coming up empty. The PM's only
been back a short time - and he's achieved a great
deal. When's Mr Abbott going to show us what the
Coalition has to offer? He has to do more than just
keep breathing to get elected.

Hasbeens post Lexi, with some force is nothing other than evidence he does not understand Labor, or his party.
Labor is not, has not four plus, decades, been lefty controlled.
Those charges make sense ONLY in noting the claimant is far right.
Mark my words Abbott is only the temporary leader of his party.
His removal will give every chance for true Liberalism to again control his party.
In putting forward a view about politics we MUST remember, our views may not be the views of many or most, and yes me too, we may well be wrong.
Any one intent on ignoring the numbers who currently support Turnbull, and understanding the polls point to many within the Liberals, who too do not want Abbott.
Our personal pain/ bitterness/ green eyed jealousy, will not impact on any election.
Voters have shown , many times they are indifferent to the extremes left or right, home of the Liberals under Abbott.
Common sense tells us to hear the voice of the voters not our own wants and wishes.

Dear Belly,

After watching "Q and A," a few weeks
ago when Malcolm Turnbull was a guest on the panel
it was obvious how popular he is with voters. And as
others within his party ranks have stated - he is
more popular than Abbott within his own party.
It would be interesting to have him challenge
Abbott for the leadership. However, I doubt if Mr
Abbott would go quietly for the sake of the Party,
as Gillard did.

I remember the Liberal Party that my parents voted
for. How different the current one seems today.
Unrecognisable in fact. Still, hopefully there
are still a few good souls out there who also
cringe at the direction that Mr Abbott has taken the
Party. It's a shame they don't speak up - and are
allowing it to degnerate to the mess it's in currently.
Elders like - John Hewson, and Malcolm Fraser - should
be listened to.

Belly,

You must be Tony Abbott's No1 fan. You regularly start threads about him and post many replies, even where no-one else has posted.

That would make Lexi Abbott's No2 fan. Shucks.

You've both got Tony in your head. It is an obsession. LOL