Belly old mate, if anyone doesn't understand Labor, it is those silly enough to think what calls itself Labor today, has some resemblance to the old party you joined.

Lexi my sweet, the only people who would stand for Turnbull are lefties, or those who have not actually listened to what he says, just how he say's it.

The same sure goes for Rudd, & that fool Obama. The west will be lucky to survive much more of this stupidity.

Dear Hasbeen,

You know flattery works with me - you silver fox.

However, I've heard Hewson and others interviewed
on television and they've all spoken in glowing
terms on Turnbull. Even Nick Minchin wanted
Turnbull as leader originally - except that
Turnbull wouldn't back down on the ETS - (man of
principle) and therein was the problem.

OTB it is with great assurance I say no need exists to reply to your post.
Not to ignore it, but to know you understand very little about the subject.
Hasbeen the thread is not about Labor.
You along with many others know only too well how to insult Labor and tilt at windmills.
A morning spent reading the speeches and policy,s of Sir Robert Menzies, then comparing them to todays party would be informative.
Sir Bob, would cringe in the corner at both the policy,s and the words of Abbott,s front bench.
Free enterprise and much more has suffered in this leaders watch, his intention to cut benefits to the less well off, and reward mums earning $150.000 a year, with 6 months full pay?
Informed posters know both majors have moved to the right.
Labors was to fill empty ground vacated by Liberals.
Yet so,me within that party are still Liberals and unhappy ones as Abbott drags you all to a very dirty water hole.
We, most of us, know what became of a certain sheep at a water hole.

Turnbull is the man of the moment "given a chance"
The world of Neo Liberalism has got lots to answer for. It's not for AU.
We need middle ground, so everyone can share the profits. Abbott is far to one sided, and i suspect a radical willing to take notice of Newman.
QLD solved nothing, just shifted the furniture. Which is what Abbott would do.
The agreement between Rudd and New guinea is very positive. I don't know if the same agreement would apply to Abbott and co. Liberalism is in hibernation ,but even their most loyal are willing to vote for a party with no policy, and a radical at the head.

Don't forget Lexi my sweet that Hewson was rejected because he was incompetent. A great technician, but not capable of carrying out the project.

Turnbull has shown himself to be equally incompetent. He may have been able to organize a phone company, but was a failure as opposition leader, not a great recommendation for PM.

He has also shown himself incapable of understanding even the job he was given, & can't handle technical information.

If we are going to have a no hoper, lets have the top no hoper, K Rudd.

Dear Hasbeen,

I think you're confusing Mr Abbott with Malcolm Turnbull.
Mr Abbott's the one who's not a "tech head,"
who Peter Costello described as an "economic illiterate."
Turnbull is tech savy, and his economic expertise is
highly respected. The following quote fits Mr Abbott
nicely:

"If ignorance ever goes to $40 a barrel I want drilling
rights to his head."