Paul in calling Menzies an arch conservative, first compare him with todays Liberals.
Any party hoping to gain power best not live on the edges.
The lights on the hill are in the hands of grand children of those first owners, as a second or third home.
No wish exists to turn left or right for them.
I with my very heart, think Abbott and his tactics are in no way Liberal.
Todays news headline, and his words question both honesty and understanding.
The beat up that the newly announced boat people plan will not work.
That in saying what any country currently would and does, un wanted migrants will not be able to settle in PNG is a constructed lie, *and be honest* an attempt to sabotage the new plan, nothing less.
Abbott given his way, would keep the boats coming without doubt.

OK fair enough it did not get a roll on.
Think I was aiming too high.
And that my own contributions did not express my true though and meaning.
See I think, may be wrong, that for our country maybe America and England, the extremes will not work.
Labor has only just started its long trek to real reform.
And in my view a need exists,for the Liberal Party to plan its future.
Our angry words here, from our lofty thrones and self belief, will make zero difference come the election.
Bank on it.
But some true escapism,on both sides, from the reality, voters are not stupid, has turned our heads.
Liberalism in my view must ask how did it bring Cory Barnardy in to its ranks.
Remember it gave us Hansen.
And why are they, confronted by tax rises and cost cutting ,planning middle class welfare.
Room exists to question both sides of politics, *but not here* not in the forum*
Years of inviting debate, from my opponents has seen ? nothing.
Here in defense of a truth *Australia needs a strong Liberal party is ignored.
I am aware I burn my own bridges,on both sides,would not change for quids.
Are we however be coming just a group of howlers? yelling in print at each other.
I aimed too high I thought we could be honest, no party can ignoreits blemishes and prosper.
Should one become so strong it can not be defeated,it could rest on its laurels and decay.
NSW Labor past did that and it is a long way back.