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Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 7:17:27 PM
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Dear SPQR,
I've just done a quick scan on the Villawood riots and it appears that the Villawood detention centre holds both irregular maritime arrivals - people arriving in Australia by boat to seek asylum as well as people already on the Australian mainland who have violated their visas. So its a mix of people - with various complaints. The complaints from detainees seem to be about overcrowding and the time it takes to process their applications. Mental health experts telll us that the mental health of some of the asylum seekers was deteriorating because of the uncertainty over their situation and the crowded conditions in which they were being held. Overcrowding and mental health played a big part at Christmas Island and other detention centres. Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 7:34:29 PM
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Lexi,
Kevin Rudd and Greens Bob Brown and Christine Milne got Australia into this mess. You are an apolosist for policies that have drowned hundreds and enabled criminal gangs of people smugglers to flourish. You make excuses for the violence in detention centres but Australia welcomed thousands of refugees and displaced people from war-torn countries, particularly following WW2. They didn't riot and burn millions of taxpayers' dollars of public assets. http://libcom.org/news/riot-asylum-seekers-detention-centre-christmas-island-18032011 Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 7:38:12 PM
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otb,
"...Australia welcomed thousands of refugees and displaced people from war-torn countries..." Yes, they did. Once upon a time we did "welcome" them, albeit sometimes grudgingly. The reason these people didn't riot was because they weren't stuffed into detention centres for years on end... If they had have been, they probably would have rioted too. Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 7:43:15 PM
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Poirot,
Where did you come from and how recently that you have such poor knowledge of post WW2 Australia? Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 7:48:39 PM
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onthebeach,
I'm not making excuses. Merely trying to explain the conditions people have to live under. The Displaced People who came to Australia after WW11 were invited to come. They helped to solve an acute labour shortage in Australia, especially in outlying areas. These migrants joined in the rebuilding of Australia's capital structures that were to serve the nation for many decades to come. They could have accomplished a great deal more, if the Australian authorities had made full use of their skills and knowledge, instead of treating them all as unskilled labour. Nevertheless, their economic contribution was significant at a time when Australia needed it most. These migrants were classified in only two occupations: "Labourers", which denoted all males, and "Domestics", which meant all females. The Australian employment officials had full details of each immigrant's skills and qualifications, no effort was made to match these with the jobs offering. The Australian authorities enforced labour contracts (2 year) strictly. And we should remember that the early conditions of migrant settlement were inadequate. There was no family accommodation in many places to which contract workers were sent. Men had to live in tents or tin huts, in most primitive conditions. Their wives and children remained in holding camps such as Northam, W.A. and Woodside, S.A. to mention just two, for long periods of time ofen a long distance away from their husbands' and fathers' workplaces. Marriages suffered, and the psychological scars of forced separations have remained for life. Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 8:00:34 PM
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This issue should not be made into a Left/Right dogfight.
And frankly I'm surprised at your asking me such an
asinine question. You're better than that. I select
things on content that I think is relevant. It's an
occupational hazard. My aim is to challenge and provoke.
I look for quality - independent journalism. I am tired
of "pack journalism." Therefore I do prefer to use
independent media because there aren't that many alternatives
in the barren Australian media landscape. We live in an
age where so much news and opinion is free - quality
journalism is not.
As for the mainland detention centres and what's being
happening there - and why. I shall have to Google that
and get back to you - but in the meantime
keep an open mind - or at least try to.