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Indonesia gives nod to coalition tow backs!

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Poirot,
Your ignorance of post war detention camps is poor, I lived next door to hundreds housed in x military barracks with asbestos roofs and no running water to the housing. These people were willing workers not dependent on Govt handouts. They built Australia in the 50 - 60's the current flow are not of the same caliber.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 18 July 2013 10:54:21 AM
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Dear Josephus,

You can't really compare the two.

The first lot came as migrants under an Australian
Immigration Scheme to fill the Labor shortage created
by WW11 and the growing economy of the country.
Such migration continues to this day.

Unfortunately, the circumstances today for others are different
and therefore so are the results we are seeing
globally. Desperate people do desperate things to
try to survive. With the continuation of wars and
persecution,
this problem is not about to go away. A regional solution
and regional co-operation is the answer to this problem for
us.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:10:56 AM
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Josephus,

Of course, it would never occur to you that the difference in attitude is that the post-war immigrants had a purpose in their lives. As you point out they were willing workers.

It's a far cry to being locked up with nothing purposeful to pass your time - and only hopelessness to pass the time of day.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:26:17 AM
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Lexi,
Do you believe in open borders? Obviously you have weak principles if you do. If not should Australia and our allies go to war with the source of the conflict that displaces these people?
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:28:37 AM
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Poirot,
I suggest you go to PM Rudd and tell him how these people could be employed. How he could create projects to develop Australia, and they not be dependent on Australia's taxpayers. These boat people are MP Rudd's problem, help him please.

Obviously he hasn't a clue on how to employ our own Australian citizens in the manufacturing, service and food industries, or on National infrastructure as we have no money. We sell our jobs to overseas low paid workers and import goods, services, and food.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:40:28 AM
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Lexi,

The common theme that runs consistently through your comments is your jaundiced view of Australia and its 'white' population. You are continually disrespecting both at every opportunity. You are willing to bend your storytelling to fit your prejudice and you constantly cherry-pick the most slanted and flakey opinion from what you call 'independent' sites. 'Independent' usually means far left.

Now I myself and others have dealt with you comments about post WW2 migration before in an endeavour to get you to dispassionately consider the facts and to ground events in the history in their time. Sadly your mind is teflon coated and it all bounces off. That is prejudice.

Here again you are into your old complaint that Australia somehow 'used' and 'abused' migrants immediately after WW2. You are convinced that your parents and other Lituanians got a sore deal, being somehow 'tricked' into coming to Australia where they unreasonably (according to you) lived for a time in the accommodation on bases built by the US and Australia during the war and where they were not offered work according to their pre-WW2 occupations and expectations in Europe.

No-one was 'hoodwinked' as you think. The Australian government offered sanctuary. It was blunt that the Australian industry had been totally converted to wartime production to suit Europe's war and little of its pre-war developing manufacturing industries remainded. As well, of course Australia didn't have the culture of Europe and there was no opera. Of course Australia was despetarely developing housing for the exodus from Europe. Of course its infrastructure was overstretched and anyhow it never had the communication, roads, rail and so on that Europe had taken centuries to develop.

Nissan huts and a job were not to shabby for your parents where many returned ex-Servicemen in country areas were unemployed, raised their families in tin sheds with bags for doors and dripping went on their children's bread.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 18 July 2013 12:00:15 PM
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