So PhillipS gave us 4 "specific cases" then?
4 out of thousands of asylum seekers.
Oh well, that just proves it then doesn't it.

For goodness sake, the vast majority of these boat people ARE found to be genuine refugees, or else they wouldn't be allowed to stay here!

The vast majority of non-Aborigial people who migrated to Australia in the first instance were coming here for a better life too.
The only difference was that they weren't Muslim

At least Individual feels able to express his obvious anti-all-things-Muslim stance, while the rest of you dance around the edges.

It makes me feel ill...

Suse,

<<So PhillipS gave us 4 "specific cases" then?
4 out of thousands of asylum seekers.
Oh well, that just proves it then doesn't it>>

Philip's examples were not isolated instances --they indicate deeper systemic problems/collusion and corruption.

<<For goodness sake, the vast majority of these boat people ARE found to be genuine refugees, or else they wouldn't be allowed to stay here!>>

They are not "found to be genuine", that is a good part of the problem.
All they need do nowadays is tell a reasonable story.

<<The vast majority of non-Aborigial people who migrated to Australia in the first instance were coming here for a better life too>>

Yes, but they werent applying for special entry under the Refugee Convention, were they!

<<At least Individual feels able to express his obvious anti-all-things-Muslim stance, while the rest of you dance around the edges>>

Actually the majority of Sri Lankans, Tamil or Singhalese would NOT be muslims.

<<It makes me feel ill...>>

That seems to have been a pre-existing condition, dont blame it on the thread!

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Warmair,

<<As an economic migrant myself from Ireland...>>

As an *honorary* Irishman ( at least for today) I take exception to you bringing your Irish origins into this debate, since your below par performance can only reflect poorly on on all good Irishfolk.

And as I recall Ireland's troubles started with (uninvited) foreigners landing on their shores!

Suseonline - Your lack of logic defies comprehension.

I gave 4 examples but if you extrapolate "The lies the Government said about only 4 or less refugees committed crimes." That one involved HUNDREDS of crimes.

Also "The public servant a year or so ago who said they were told to pass some." That number assessed as okay WRONGLY could potentially be thousands

Also you are missing the other very important FACT only around 10% are properly checked that means in excess of 35,000 got a free pass.

To quote you "For goodness sake, the vast majority of these boat people ARE found to be genuine refugees, or else they wouldn't be allowed to stay here!" CAN"T YOU READ only 10% were checked properly.

Please consider what you write in future to avoid embarrassing yourself.

Yes you have a point about Government lies but the weight of evidence at the moment is These are mostly ECONOMIC INVADERS.

I'm the descendant of a lot of poor economic migrants who have contributed a huge amount to this country, and I predict that the migrants of today (economic / refugee) will do the same once we actually make them feel at home. In fact if they are 'economic migrants' that indicates that they have aspirations to better themselves and will work hard to do so given half a chance. The current rule to prevent them from working seems totally stupid - if (for example) they are taking up all the houses for Australian homeless, well, put them to work building more!

I have pretty much given up on The Forum because of the unpleasant language - it's one thing to have different opinions, quite another to insult and belittle those who disagree with you. My advice to Suzie,Lexi, Paul etc. - just stop posting and leave the rest to a mutual exchange of ill-will.

Cossomby,

We have to think of the OLO's electricity bill.

If we allow the usual suspects free reign, in no time they will have installed a flashing neon sign which reads " Boat People = Economic Migrants".... something akin to that which the two major parties are now working on.

Of course, that should be "free rein",

(We don't want them to get above themselves:)