people with a social conscience such as those you name.
Paul1405,
You talking social conscience & then you go & support the ALP ? You're worse than Belly could ever dream to be. Those countries which produce the real refugees are full of people who occupy positions of no use to their constituents i.e. like the people I named. People who use up funding for no economic return whatsoever i.e. like tens of thousands of public servants licking stamps.
many of these countries have great resources but just like in Australia only a handful get something out of it. Believe me there are a lot of Australians who would jump on a boat to go to a better country if only other countries would accept them like Australia does. Ever bothered to find out why so many australian pensioners move to Malaysia, Indonesia & the Philipines ? Many want to but the lousy Aust. Govt. stops paying their pension after three monts.
Have you not seen some of those ungrateful self-proclaimed refugees who live off our social security money & blatantly denounce our way of life ? Are these the people you're supporting just because they bleat refugee ?

misanthrope,
Unfortunately Sir you are 100% correct with your question about why they want to stop these people coming here. The only argument I have against it is that I would prefer them to not be aggravated Islamists hell bent of eradicating us humble infidels.
Sooner or later the Islamic religion will rule the earth whether we like it or not. Christianity will disappear like all isms have in the past. It won't be tomorrow, it may not be for another two hundred years but it will happen.
So we will not stop them coming but we can turn the problem to our advantage. Some sort of contract of regional residency that creates decentralization and population growth in the areas outside the cities.
Anybody that takes the risks these people take to get here has a lot more going for them that the hordes of dole bludgers we have here at the moment.
Who cares if their women want to wrap themselves up and sweat to death in the Aussie heat. We might even be able to re educate their kids into not hating us so much. So long as they conform to out laws let them in.
Think of how much we save by not subsidizing their air fares as refugees.

Indy worse than Belly?
On what basis do you class me?
You clearly do not understand you are not a likely poster to judge anyone.
Fixed in your own thoughts, at least in print,you seem to need help.
Paul 1405 is a green, that is his right.
You however have failed to prove to me you understand much about the subject of politics.
If it pleases you to judge others, but not review your own long history of histrionic posting go ahead.

You however have failed to prove to me you understand much about the subject of politics.
Ah, Belly & you do eh ?
I must admit I never knew that politics was about putting the most incompetent academics you can find into Government.
I always thought Politics was about trying to get as much competence in government as possible & that's why I started to support the Coalition since that big Goaf. Going by his level of competence Rudd's achievement will be to make Goaf turn in his grave.

economic migrant myself from Ireland,
warmair,
Don't take it too hard, the Irish always have been & always will be excempt. :-)

Indi, you possess a blinkered and irrational view of the world, you perceive everything through your minds eye, take this quote of yours; " i.e. like tens of thousands of public servants licking stamps." this is your typical irrational view, your hated of public servants spills over to the point where you have convinced yourself that government employees are nothing more than a seething bunch of lazy incompetents, stealing from the public purse. You have no evidence for most of what you claim about anything, but would rather twist your blind opinions through your own distortions into becoming an irrational version of the truth. I only use the "public servant" quote as an example of what I claim about your way of thinking. You seem to apply that thought process whenever you want to establish the facts of a matter, be it asylum seekers, welfare precipitants, public servants whatever.
Your not alone in the world when it comes to turning blinkered opinions into the "truth".