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Productivity and the Deficit

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BTW, for those who think that quarantining of welfare dollars is the answer - it could only possibly work in a remote small town or village where everyone's income is quarantined.

Otherwise, nothing stops a welfare-receiver from going to the supermarket and asking others (friends, neighbours, even strangers): "let me help you buy your groceries", then buy what they want with restricted money and give the other person the goods and receipt in exchange for unrestricted cash.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 29 April 2013 9:30:52 AM
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Y you in answering those claims should know few balanced folk think like that.
And within the welfare receivers even less need watching because of miss spending it.
SOME, you chose, here just will not ever let the dole bludger thing see the truth.
It is our fault, a job, real fair wages for real fair work is the answer.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 29 April 2013 2:26:08 PM
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Come on you lot ? National Service, full stop ! Either you want to stop the crap or you don't but be assured national service IS THE ONLY solution !
If it doesn't get introduced soon those grandchildren of the professional dole bludgers will turn zombie-like violent. Better hit the show on head now before it's really totally too late.
Posted by individual, Monday, 29 April 2013 6:29:30 PM
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Make the bludgers WORK FOR THE DOLE, no work no money.

That goes for the economic invaders as well or STOP them that will fix a lot of the $12 Billion dollar budget blowout.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 29 April 2013 6:53:42 PM
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Dear Philip,

<<Make the bludgers WORK FOR THE DOLE, no work no money.>>

And they will just sit in the sun, say 'O Yeah' and starve to death, right?

No money given == money taken - without permission, from me from you, from old ladies, using force if necessary too.

The costs of fortifying our windows with steel bars, fortified doors and and garages, barbed fences, solid roofing, improved alarm systems, armed security guards in the streets, psychological treatments for our children who were kicked in the air as their sandwich bags were snatched at the playground, and finally tripling the prison population, would be much higher than just letting them have that bit of money to keep their stomachs full.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 29 April 2013 7:12:17 PM
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I bet that not many people know that Australia is the only country in the world that pays unemployment benefits indefinitely.

You can leave school and go on the dole until you're eligible for a pension and then onto a funded nursing home, without making any sort of social contribution, except for being a consumer.

Other countries pay some sort of unemployment benefit for a defined period and then it's onto a minimal welfare payment - far below what our is.

Even the old Soviet Union demanded a minimum period of work in order to to meet pension eligibility.

Now you need to ask yourself if you would be happy to see a permanent underclass of beggars on our streets?

Would you like to see the long-term employed (like prisoner labor) undercutting YOUR wages as a source of limitless cheap labor or being forced to undertake physically dangerous jobs that nobody else would?

We will always have our bludgers, and not all of them are on the bottom of the socio-economic heap.

It comes down to what sort of society - not just economy - you would like to be living in.

Are we in fact a society or just a collection of moneyed individuals looking out for ourselves?
Posted by wobbles, Monday, 29 April 2013 7:13:23 PM
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