Good evening to you ARJAY...

Thank you for that Link,'Family Guy'. ARJAY my friend, what can I say ? These yanks - and I do have some very close American friends - never fail to amaze me with their bizarre take on humour, their many conspiracy theories, their whole 'overkill' on matters of crime and terrorism, ever pushing their individual 'rights' to the limit. What about the 'rights' of the majority eh ?

If a dumb witted, ex copper like me can see what's wrong, what needs to be done, to at least halt this awful community decay, and this social decadence and unfettered violent behaviour. Surely others over there can now appreciate what remedies are needed to at least slow the inevitable decline of their entire society from disappearing forever into oblivion ? Why in hells name can't the many thousands of PH.D's do something about it !

Is there nobody over there with any sense of social responsibility ? Of course there are ! And I've been fortunate to meet many of them ARJAY, they're just like you and me. Ordinary people with families, worries, mortgages, bills to pay etc.

Yet all we ever seem to get from across the Pacific, is images of violence, talk of violence and evidence of horrific violence. Murder rape and mayhem. Add a liberal dash of terrorism, natural disasters, weird behaviour by selfish individuals wishing to 'push the envelope' while they exercise their individual 'freedoms'. Plus a plethora of dreadfully violent movies, unnatural human activity, etc ? What in hells name is wrong with their government, allowing all this crap to continue, worse perpetuate !

CSTEELE has furnished three links to videos, of some crazy American 'boofheads' strutting around US Cities openly carrying F/A's. Some appear to be carrying assault weapons (AR15's or similar) - testing their 2nd amendment rights to do so ! Bloody hell ARJAY, what is wrong with these people !?

Many thanks for you important contribution, I do appreciate it.

To return to the OP, the police found no evidence whatsoever of any link between the Boston bombing and the NRA. It was the usual suspects, Islamic fundamentalists and with the usual track record of 'education' by bigots in a mosque somewhere.

The csteele youtube video cr#p.
I only bothered with a bit of one video, suspecting what trash csteele would post. Some 'boofheads' is right and as is obvious they were making a highly contentious video. The cop treated them as immature fools out to get some publicity for themselves, 'You fellas show me yours and I will show you mine which is more tactical'. Or words to that effect. He was right. There is a host of such rubbish on the Net and to pretend it is an authoritative source is very foolish indeed.

But the video is no more representative of lawful firearms owners than the many videos on the Net of equally boof-headed motorbike riders and hoons trying to impress with their stupidity.

It is pitiful that anyone would trawl the Net for rubbish like that and try to opportunistically link it with a grievous act of terrorism. Next some videos from csteele on zombie killers

Good evening CSTEELE...

Thank you for the three links your furnished. I've just replied to ARJAY on a link he provided, though a slightly different 'take' to yours, nevertheless symbolically representing much of what's wrong with the United States today.

I watched all three as you'd requested. The first two, I saw about half of each, the message was abundantly clear. The third (and shortest in duration) I watched in it's entirety.

There's an offence in NSW, and in all States, if I'm not mistaken. The citation reads thus '...causing serious alarm or affront...'? It's not necessary to have a F/A or any weapon in fact, just that the 'conduct' (offence) must represent to 'a person' in a public street or place, to engage in conduct of a type that causes a 'serious alarm or affront' ! The conduct MUST involve frightening somebody severely,(the 'alarm' component) or, cause a serious 'affront'.

'Affront' can be defined as doing something as simple as 'verbal' eg vicious or obscene words, or religious slurs or gender vilification or similar ? There again, words themselves aren't necessary. Like offending the modesty or values of a person by a particular type of conduct ? An example would be your everyday 'flasher' ! There're other similar charges available also.

Those involved in the three clips, if they were to pursue exactly the same measure of conduct as depicted therein, they could arrested here. In fact I'd bet on it. In Oz individuals seen carrying sinister looking F/A's (legally or not) in public, would most assuredly frighten most people, in this day and age !

Further enquiries may well disclose additional offences too ? If not, there's the old standby, the 'Tarpaulin Act, of 1900. It's a very silly fellow, who chooses to taunt coppers ? Believe me ?

Interestingly, with a minor conviction the individual's future 'right to bear arms' may well become questionable even removed, as the applicant, may not pass the character test ?

Thanks for your contribution CSTEELE, I appreciate it.

Dear o sung wu,

Thank you for providing your perspective.

I'm a little in two minds over this. Of course one's initial reaction is always going to be 'What clowns!' It is sobering to think if the two Boston Marathon bombers did not have a criminal history then in some states they could walk into a movie theatre, a primary school, or a sporting event quite openly and legally carrying weapons and then inflict their brand of mayhem. It would make preventative law enforcement an absolute nightmare.

It is easy to label the actions in the videos as a reaction to tighter guns laws and an almost pathological reverence for the absolute right to own and bear arms, but there is another sense that police killings and brutality that is so often depicted in the US is eliciting a reaction from its citizenry.

We had a period of 10 years here in Victoria where there seemed to be a escalating war between the police and members of the criminal fraternity. It resulted in a number of police deaths including a bombing and a couple of double fatalities, one victim was a relative of my brother's then defacto. There were also a fair number of deaths on the other side of the ledger and it seemed as if the tit for tat would go on forever. I might get an argument from you on this count but it seemed strong leadership at senior levels of the force brought rouge, out of control elements within the force to heel, disbanding the worst squad and police deaths subsequently dropped dramatically.

I do not fear the police in this country but it is an unfortunate fact that for many in the US, not only those in minority communities, fear of police is normal. To have people arm arming themselves against tyranny, potentially from the government would not have any resonance here but I think it is a different story in the US. The Homeland Security laws in place since 9/11 would have undoubtedly escalated these sentiments.

You're right, damn they are in a mess.

Dear onthebeach,

More gibberish?

You are like an annoying little squid and every time you get backed into a corner you spray a heap of ink around thinking you might escape in the confusion.

This is indeed getting tiring for me and I assume the other readers here so just deal with it. Are you prepared to retract your statement that “the very gun registration that is supposed to prevent crime is the likely source of information for thefts. Any cop can access that data on all owners, what is held and where, and without leaving a trace of his query.”? It was slanderous, disrespectful and recognised by most as idiotic.

I even suspect you see it as such as well but are just a little too full of yourself to admit it. Well my friend sometimes you just have to swallow your pride and do the deed. Until then all your posts directed at me will naturally be regarded for exactly what they are, just another attempt to add to the ink cloud.

csteele,

You just keep trawling the Net for those videos. LOL