The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > General Discussion > Sit Down Money

Sit Down Money

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. ...
  6. 11
  7. 12
  8. 13
  9. Page 14
  10. 15
  11. 16
  12. 17
  13. ...
  14. 21
  15. 22
  16. 23
  17. All
Cont.

I made the following comments some time ago in another post that I believe are relevant:

Firstly, I believe that it is a right that everyone should have shelter even if an individual does not have the “financial means to buy (or build)”. Clearly it’s more desirable if individuals are able to own and build their own residence. It is virtually impossible when individuals have been forced, have no choice or are born into a ghetto be it in the middle of a city, on the outskirts of a town or in a remote part of this vast country. This is further compounded when there is poor education, health and nothing to do. Put anyone in any of these situations and the result will be the same.

Until all Australians whatever their location or circumstances are able to access food, shelter, health and education, the right to “ownership to their own castle” is a moot point. Australians that find themselves in these situations must be allowed and/or assisted to develop self-determination themselves, that counteracts the bureaucrats, politicians, god bothers, manipulative yella fellas and do-gooder’s.

The root of the issue is that we treat the first Australians differently. This is I believe is wrong and segregates or community. More help should go to the greatest need, because it is needed and for no other reason.

I would be interested in your personal experience of do-gooders?
Posted by Producer, Sunday, 21 April 2013 1:54:33 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I would be interested in your personal experience of do-gooders?
Producer,
I appreciate your reply. Now to your question. I have witnessed so many do-gooders showing up in the communities & due to their brainwashed idealistic mentality have undone years upon years of very good work by those who lived & worked in the communities.
In the main the do-gooders are left wing academic back ground. I have witnessed locals being so manipulated into believing the guilt industry merchants & by doing so the communities became divided & dysfunctional. If you were there in the capacity you say you were then you know what I'm on about.
In the past 25 years no actual training in any trade has occurred. Evereyone was brainwashed into believing that all non-indigenous owed them a living & that's how the guilt industry got off the ground. It has destroyed all social life & discipline that was there before Labor got into power. In a nutshell Labor, by way of its ignorant cronies has destroyed the indigenous communities.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 21 April 2013 2:38:17 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Producer I like most of what you have said however there is a but.
Your personnel experience is not the only one.
Different cultures are to be found in so many places.
Mine while it has touched on true out back people is the far different urban dwellers, and even more different small country towns one.
Loudmouth I am with you too but!
Even self determination needs heads to lead, in the right direction, for the community, not sadly, as some have, ripping off their own people.
Producer we agree, I took it further *no dole* a job always.
But a well thought out one, that leaves room for continuing education and training for what ever trade they want.
I my nearest mission, NT people would not know the people are theirs, Children appearing for school hungry and untidy, going just to get away from *sexual assaults* yes not the few, but most, and if that is not tragic nothing is.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 21 April 2013 3:08:45 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Individual – You have tried to boil it down to a political red and blue issue that only applies to a certain part of our population. This is not the case and has never been the case. Both franchises are as bad as each other and although more concentrated in the communities is a nationwide issue.

By the way they are Ickydumic's not Academic’s. They come in left and right handed versions. Some are even ambidextrous. They generally can be identified by the requirement to be centre of attention, bow ties, scarves and bright coloured glasses. I have a lot of respect for Academic’s and would not want them bundled in with the other lot.

You have not acknowledged the part that bureaucrats, god bothers or manipulative yella fellas. Then there are local businesses that cash in as well.

I have suggested:

“The concept of welfare is flawed. There should be “no sit down” money (the dole) but should be replaced by a minimum wage that is higher than the dole. It is “sit down” money and only this that causes welfare dependency whether it is on a remote aboriginal settlement or the suburbs of Sydney. I believe every person of working age in this country is entitled to a fair share of this countries productivity however should be required to do something meaningful for it, for a prescribed amount of time.

Most importantly these activities should be controlled and tailored at local level, not centralised government.

Some activities that come to mind are SES, volunteer fire brigade, public housing, child care and elder care. Everybody has the ability to do something meaningful, whereas work for the dole is seen and is demeaning. The minimum wage should rise and fall with our nation’s productivity.”

What solution would you suggest?

(The answer is not elect Mr Rabbott and his mob, keep it simple)
Posted by Producer, Sunday, 21 April 2013 3:48:33 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Stop the cash and watch many of the problems disappear.

No cash, means no splash!
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 21 April 2013 4:40:13 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
(The answer is not elect Mr Rabbott and his mob, keep it simple)
producer,
All your rhetoric & then you don't want to give it any chance to change for the better ? The mind boggles ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 21 April 2013 8:23:27 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. ...
  6. 11
  7. 12
  8. 13
  9. Page 14
  10. 15
  11. 16
  12. 17
  13. ...
  14. 21
  15. 22
  16. 23
  17. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy