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no understanding of history, sociology and anthropology.
Mr Opinion,
You don't either so I suppose you speak with authority.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 6:49:10 PM
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Mr Opinion,

You may wish to check out this article by Henry Reynolds and Jamie Dalziel, on Aboriginal use-rights on all Crown land and pastoral leases:

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/UNSWLawJl/1996/17.pdf

Recognition of use-rights is not recognition of land ownership or proprietorship. That's another story.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 6:59:59 PM
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Oh that's great Loudmouth, an article by a couple of dingbat lawyers. But I don't really care reading anything produced by people with trade degrees like law, etc. One on my favourite oxymorons is "an honest lawyer."
Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 7:43:34 PM
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MO,

Henry Reynolds is a historian, not a lawyer. And if you read the article, you most certainly wouldn't use ad hominems like 'dingbat'.

The article describes the eveolution of a legal position, how it was and how it became, not how you or any other dingbat might have preferred it to be., just for your petty paradigm.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 7:48:02 PM
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In the link Noel Pearson supports the opinion of Marcia Langton that a sense of entitlement had poisoned Aboriginal society. I could not agree more, the white man sometimes with the best of intentions created the hand out mentality as a fix to the "problem" of indigenous people. This is not unique in Australia, wherever Europeans colonised few could see little of value in indigenous culture. Often colonisers tried to Europeanise native people, sometimes believing it was for their own good, or simple to exploit and profit from it. Indigenous people have been marginalise in society, forced into camps and driven to the bottom rung of the socioeconomic ladder.
I have spoken about this to many people, what's best for indigenous people, and the person who makes the best sense to me is my partner who is Maori. The problems confronting her people are not to dissimilar to the problems of Aboriginal people here. She believes her people first and foremost need to respect their own culture, language and traditions they need to speak for themselves through their own leadership. She believes her people should be a part of the decision making process. Land, they must have land, not to be exploited but to be identified with. My partner also wants to see opportunity in education, employment etc and she wants the young people to value those opportunities when they are presented, "make something of your bloody selves," as she once told an assembly of young Maori's, a third of her age,and others,in a speech she made at 3 o'clock in the morning one July in a rather cold Marae. At least they all listened when "Aunty" spoke.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 9:52:19 PM
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Mr Opinion,
History, sociology and anthropology are all artistic disciplines, why don't you also quote the findings of ceramicists,printmakers and graphic designers on the issue of land rights?
A person with a B.A in textile design has as much right and an equal authority when talking about colonisation or land rights as do anthropologists or sociologists.
My ancestors were legally entitled to emigrate to this continent and acquired their land legally, that's a scientific fact, not an artistic invention.
Can you back up your assertion that the British are the nastiest race on earth with scientific facts?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 10:37:49 PM
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