I thank every contributer no room to do so with individuals, but yes to o sung wo.
I am in pain, my party is in pain, my union, all unions, are in pain.
I write as I do, because both movements should be, speaking out for their membership.
Yet lost in an isolated world, screened off from reality of public opinion, and the future they are imposing on both, and my country, it is time to steal a quote.
*For all good men to come to the aid of the party/Union*
I think the ALP was not then ready to govern, when in 2006 Rudd bought hope.
That work choices briefly bought us together, but left change on the shelf.
To days sickness, was in existence then, we had Howard working for us as the ladder we climbed to office.
Rudd fell, factionalism bought him down, and from that day we both produced policy,s to be proud of, and let Gillard out of her play pen to put junk policy,s like the peoples forum, gee need I say more?
It is my view, Liberals are not yet ready to govern.
They will stand on shaky feet.
But we return a favor, we gifted them victory.
And like children,the power behind the ALP, inside and out of Parliament, continue to blame their victims!
Labor and unions, all unions, need to see in the eyes of this poster, many within their own ranks, those who held the knife are an illness Labor must confront.
Change is imposible if 50% of any vote remains the propewrty of unions.
Believe it or not those vote owners are harming the majority who would be ALP members if their voice could be heard above the sound of union head imposing that song, solidarity forever on a whole country, a country uninterested in it.

Dear spindoc,

Your post says much that is good about you.

Dear runner,

May you achieve gruntlement.

david f

Dear runner,

May you achieve gruntlement.

on one level yes DAvid but surely you aren't foolish enough not to know that God can't be mocked. He has certainly not left HIs throne despite the corruption of mankind. Thank Him for the Only incorruptible ONe and that certainly aint you.

Dear runner,

One can mock a non-existent entity, but it is pointless to do so.

But can Labor survive?
Belly,
for the last time get it into you, Labor is dead ! It has been killed by Whitlam 40 years ago.
I share your sentiments about the Tree & those who made Labor but they too have long since disappeared. The ALP has taken over but it failed to adhere to the Labor principles, instead it morphed into one of the most corrupt & useless & expensive failures this country has endured. Let's hope the ALP dies so that Labor can rise again.

G'day there BELLY old chap...

As PAUL1405 said in his thread '...the Australian people owe a great debt to the Australian Labour Party...' ? And we do !

Moreover BELLY, YOU'RE a important even a integral part of that great Party. So you should not forget it ol' man ? True, at the moment they're having a rough time of it. Caused essentially through the absurd actions of a few. However, after September next, hopeful we'll all be done with those 'few', and you and your Party can start afresh with a clean sheet of paper, and with an abundance of some vibrant, classy and brand new 'untainted stock' of young Labour talent.

Forming a firm covenant with the Australian electorate to firstly; EXPEL ALL those currently in Federal Labour; Secondly, never again allow this once great country to fall into the bungling hands of such a morally corrupt, imperious and peremptory group of oligarchs to trash, and pervade the once good name and reputation of the Australian Labour Party.

Labour has led us through wars BELLY, there's no reason why they can't rise above this mess !