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The ALP and its future
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Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 7 April 2013 4:46:19 PM
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That slur is playing dirty, and fast and loose with the facts.
The record shows that Julia Gillard dragged her large caboose on that one too, only setting up a very narrow inquiry after being pushed hard by many interests, including in NSW, From the ABC, <Ms Gillard had been under pressure to act following growing calls for a national inquiry into explosive allegations by a senior New South Wales police investigator that the Catholic Church covered up evidence involving paedophile priests. A number of senior Labor MPs, as well as key independents, had already voiced their support for action on a national scale. Opposition Leader Tony Abbott also declared his support for a "wide-ranging" royal commission into child sex abuse but said it should not just focus on claims involving the Catholic Church> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-12/gillard-launches-royal-commission-into-child-abuse/4367364 I suppose you will now put a negative spin on Abbott (rightly) echoing the call for a broader inquiry. Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 7 April 2013 6:17:17 PM
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Well I feel I can put the whip away.
After a horse hits the front in a race,and nears the winning post, putting the whip away is a sign the race is won. I must note my ever present challenging to Conservatives/Liberals, and assorted red necks, to tell of the faults on their team, stays unanswered. Too the redneck,wish we had viewer posts, chins collars and necks all red with anger, without understanding. But not informed comment. Cargo cult, those thinking our incoming government will all have halos fitted and do wonderful things ,never making a single enemy is, come on! we know it is blindness. Using an others quote but come! in respect of Abbott, *in your guts you know he is nuts!* Labor will reform, self interests will go, but it will take the open warefare AFTER OUR DEFEAT! Posted by Belly, Monday, 8 April 2013 7:29:54 AM
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Belly,
I do not see anyone here saying the Libs are going to be perfect, but at least we can expect far better financial management, by their track record. For myself, I expect the illegals to be stopped and I have hopes that the flawed ideology of multiculturalism will finally be dropped. As time goes on, I also expect continued lack of public support for the theory of AGW as evidence grows that climate change is a natural occurance that is beyond human influence. I think Labor has backed the wrong horse here. The carbon output keeps rising but not the earths temperature. Oh, you will see critisism from those who dissagree with Libs actions, myself included, but the main thing at this stage is to be rid of the totally incompedent mob that are there now. I hope the Libs will not try to pay off the massive debt left by Labor, but simply pay the interest. The interest bill should be included in each budget and called 'Labors Legacy', to keep reminding everyone of this terrible government. Posted by Banjo, Monday, 8 April 2013 8:19:57 AM
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onthebeach,
Questioning things is not a slur. But manipulating and misrepresenting facts and then calling someone a liar due to changed circumstances and basing an entire campaign on a lie certainly lowers the bar in the political arena. BTW the inquiry already has such wide- ranging powers - there is no need for the Coalition to ask for more or to not support it. They're simply stalling as usual. It's amazing what can be achieved when you don't care who suggested it. Cheers. Posted by Lexi, Monday, 8 April 2013 10:26:06 AM
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Banjo, not unexpected mate, but do you understand just how Cargo cult/unrealistic you wants are.
As in Ludwig,s thread both sides want more migration/population, and they will get it . It drives productivity, Liberals will work at stopping the boats, will do so, if the senate lets them, unlike its reaction to Labors efforts. But it will not change much with the world wide lie modern Migration/Multi cultorism is/has become. A silent plan seems to be active world wide, to try to make us love not being our selves. Last, Cargo cultism is nothing compared to the blind silliness, the very thought GFC did not take place. Along with the forgetfulness that Howard taxed us much, to help build his future fund and he miss used the peak of the mining boom to reward industry,s not the nation as a whole. I bring to your attention, AWB/Children over board and three heads that quietly left making it look normal! Mate it maybe you missed it, but we suffer still from Big Mals dropping the gates and with no checks letting in a generation of Criminals from Lebanon that continue generations of crimes in this country. Posted by Belly, Monday, 8 April 2013 2:54:00 PM
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My apologies for not getting back to you earlier.
I've been mulling over your question for me to
name one achievement of Labor's that's been
funded. There's quite a few, however the one
that I think the government can justly be proud
of, and which I'm sure the Coalition supports has
to be - The Royal Commission into Insitutional
Responses to Child Sex Abuse. (That's the full title).
As a commentator stated:
"It's worth asking whether such a inquiry with
such wide-ranging powers would have been commissioned
by Tony Abbott, given his personal history with the
Catholic Church. There must be considerable doubt."
This Commission is long overdue, but it was Julia
Gillard who finally took responsibility.