Bazz,

It is no secret that in geologic time, we are heading for another ice age. What we are seeing in our current time frame is somewhat different and a lot of people who gravitate here only believe in what they want to believe or see what they want to see.

The addition of greenhouse gases to the atmosphere caused by fossil fuel burning and other anthropogenic activity has caused temperatures at the surface of Earth to increase significantly over the past century and a half, and rapidly during the interval from around 1975 until the early years of the 21st century.

However, sea surface and surface-air temperatures have not risen significantly over most of the past decade, encouraging some ‘fake sceptics’ to question the continued reality of global warming, despite the fact that similar variability also can be seen in the instrumental records of the past century.

The real question, then, is not whether climate warming has stopped, but where in the earth system the heat resides that would have caused the expected warming? Naturally, the first place to look is in the ocean, because that is where most of the heat taken up due to global warming is stored.

A number of real ‘climate scientists’ conducted a reanalysis of changes in the global ocean heat content from 1958 through 2009 and found that much of the warming has occurred below depths of 700 m, rather than in the surface ocean, and that much of that redistribution is due to changes in surface winds over that period.

This helps to explain why air temperatures have not reflected this heating and shows that global warming is continuing, but out of our daily reach.

Geophys. Res. Lett. 10.1002/grl.50382 (2013)

It would be too late to relish the red faces when it turns out that the 'fake sceptics' here and elsewhere are wrong.

That's pretty amusing Q&A, Pity the Argo buoys can't find any evidence of it, but then these global warming "scientists" are pretty good at spruiking theories they can't back up with evidence.

Like the one just 5 years or so back, that "it ain't gunna snow no more" due to global warming, with 99% certainty.

Now they don't have enough shovels to dig themselves out of the ice in the northern hemisphere, they have a new one.

This one says when it is hotter, it makes it colder. They even have a pretty computer generated diagram to prove it, just like they did with the story of no more snow. Hell if we could get a synthetic worm on our fishing hook to wriggle like these clowns, we would catch every fool fish in the sea.

Well we would until the fish got sick of being conned.

Today even green Europe have got sick of being conned. Conned by plastic scientists, living in their synthetic worlds, only seen in their computers.

It's over buddy. Just fold up the banner, turn your computer off & go join the dole que. First in will beat the rush.

Belly
That's a nice picture of those pretty girls in your reference. Really sweet of the warmists to give the poor oldies something to look at, as they freeze to death in their global warming frozen homes, they are unable to heat, since global warming induced fool alternate electricity generation systems have made electricity too damned expensive for then to buy.

I'm sure they will be grateful.

Qanda, is it possible that the warming since the early 19th century is
because the Maunder Minimum cold period ended and we are getting back the previous normal ?

Hasbeen old mate! do you consider your self well schooled in this area?
Better say the all those lieing scientists?
Why are the beggar,s telling lie,s?
Next they will tell us that cow never jumped over the moon.

Hasbeen

Like I said, some people only see what they want to see - you included.

"Pity the Argo buoys can't find any evidence of it, but then these global warming "scientists" are pretty good at spruiking theories they can't back up with evidence."

That is either a lie or a deliberate distortion or misrepresentation, Hasbeen.

Almost 1200 scientific papers based on or incorporating Argo data have been generated since the start of the program. Prominent findings include:

... Analysis of ocean salinity patterns indicate that a substantial (16 to 24%) intensification of the global water cycle will occur in a future 2° to 3° warmer world.

... A more detailed view of the world’s largest ocean current, the Antarctic Circumpolar Current.

... An insight into changing bodies of water in the Southern Ocean and the way in which carbon dioxide is removed from the atmosphere.

... Isolating the effect of ocean warming and thermal expansion on the global energy and sea level budget.

I suggest you read real science, not distorted science spruiked on 'sceptic' blog sites, as you are known to do.

You said you were a scientist, Hasbeen. No you are not, you just have a tendency to make stuff up.

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Bazz

No, we are creating a 'new normal' - it is becoming commonly known as the Anthropocene.

No Belly I don't think that a reasonable sceptic believes the scientists are telling lies. However it is possible that the paradigm is not as clear cut as QANDA would have us believe. My personal view is that science works within paradigms and our good old nervous system works very well at identifying patterns within a particular context - that is, we can often choose to see what we want to see. Of course we like to think that science is suitably objective but that is often not the case. At the end of the day, it is people doing science, not omniscient gods.

Now this is personal opinion, but so often the papers used as evidence that AGW is indeed happening are informed by the paradigm. In other words, it is a self perpetuating mechanism driven by human social constructs. If a scientist accepts that AGW is true, he is likely to seek patterns in the data that confirm that bias. Given that weather and climate are essentially chaotic systems, it is possible that identifying past trends does not necessarily inform us well about future trends.

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