It is true, if you look at csteele,s post history, just here in OLO, you will see defense of the indefensible.
Defense of out standing acts by Muslims, act of some, appearing to be children of unwed parents.

Let us take a closer look, runner will be displeased.
Increasing numbers of humanity, in the developed world, believe in no God.
We teach evolution, and of the long history of this world,we look for life on other planets.
We, even I think if folk want the straw religion is, let them have it.
Entrench in our laws, their right toit.
We, at a cost to the rest of us, give tax breaks to the followers of many Gods, and in many cases, have that cread interffer with our daily life.
WHY should we, this creed wants its own laws, in my country, wants its right to hate the west, I understand it is not all.
Why is both this creed and the Catholic Church,able to give comfort within its heart,to folk like the hateful pedophiles and the equally hateful Islamists?
csteele is a defender of all things Muslim.
And I question again why, based on a never was never will be God, we bend our knee to the wishes of some who we opened our door to.

Csteel says....But I do think you are on to something. I would wager a penny to a pound that the vast majority who have contributed on this thread are male, white, bitter, and on the sad side of middle age.

Your probably right, but you must also remember that most in this age group had loved ones either effected by, or lost to, the several wars faught to protect our values and way of life.

They most certainly didn't go to war, with the knowledge that our great nation would many years later simply open the flood gates to the likes of the Muslim race, which like it or not, harbors terrorism.

Now as for immigration, you are simply trying to make out that people like myself are anti immigration, which I'm not, provided they are INVITED, but I am anti taking any risk of bring people into our country, who's folk have proven records of harboring those WHO HATE US.

The illegals are one such risk, as apparently, not even they (the illegals) know their own backgrounds.

Now if they don't know their age, origin or faith, then how would we know.
So There is a huge difference, don't you think Csteel?

On a number of occasions, not this thread, I have asked the question
"Given that wherever islam establishes itself, there are problems with
the existing population, why should we bother ?".

This latest exchange between Phillp S and OSW illustrates exactly what I am talking about.

Five clowns decide to take it upon themselves to be some sort of 'God squad' outside a Mosque in London, without the sanction of the Mosque officials who subsequently firmly condemn their actions, and then get themselves arrested for their troubles and suddenly Australia is in grave fear of being “reduced to a Moslem war zone”?

It just defies logic. It is startling how people end up processing facts in this fashion.

So why this hyper inflation of every small act to continually roundly condemn all Muslims? Because people like Phillip S and OSW have lost all PERSPECTIVE! They have become poison peddlers intent on using every small transgression to blight the whole and stoke fears within our communities.

We have Jewish communities well established within our country some of whom are living to a degree under their own laws. We don't use the fact that in Israel orthodox Jews stone cars that are driven on the Sabbath, or that Orthodox settlers in the West Bank have finally won the implementation of Palestinian only buses, to call them a 'scourge' or ask “how long till they try this here”.

The very real problem we are facing is the rhetoric being propagated by the likes of these two shows no sign of diminishing. It has become a feeding frenzy between their ilk, the media and our politicians. I'm not sure what is going to finally break this spiral, hopefully it doesn't take a Norway type tragedy to do so.

Below is a link to a video which is commonly coming out of Europe and the UK. I do not know if they are exaggerrated or not, but there are far too many for them all to be wrong. Written media reports all indicate the same thing. Anti social conduct, rape, bashings, car buirning and 'no go' zones are apparent everyday happenings in many countries.

OSW is correct, the local media and all politicians are too scared to acknowledge the problems of many European countries have with Islam, let alone take any action to prevent the same happening here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a1PM6YB8wg&sns=em

OSW asked;
.everyone is scared of upsetting Muslims...why ?

Well, as has already happened overseas, they might either assault you
or indeed kill you.

It only takes one.