Anthony v yes in fact given time, before posting,I doubt Rechtub , even Indy, but with some doubt, think a whole class of Australians, has gone bad.
Wounder how many of the mud army are unionists or vote Labor?

Hi Belly,
A good point.
But neither Indi nor rechtub are the type to let facts spoil a good - or not so good - theory.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

True Anthonyv but truth makes its own path, I often express negative views of the very Left- of common sense.
The extremes of the right are just as lost.
A truth is, given its current troubles, the unlikely event we can stop a mass killing this election.
And the apparent lack of ability and plans from our opponents, Labor will emerge case hardened from the loss.

......And the apparent lack of ability and plans from our opponents, Labor will emerge case hardened from the loss

Belly that's a misleading statement and you know it.

Anyone knows it is impossible to plan anything without first knowing where we are here and now.

Even the government themselves doesn't really know just where we are finically, however, once the budget has been handed down, I believe this is in May, everyone should have a better idea of where our starting point is with regards to current and forecast debt.

Now surely you would agree that that would be a more responsible time to start releasing policies, from both parties.

Meanwhile, we have labor spending money head over heels on PLANNED reforms, such as health and education.

So, given there is still no end in sight for the asylum seekers debacle from labor, where do you propose the money will come from for these promised reforms, or, are they ( the reforms) yet another promise likely to be broken, like the surplus we would have at any cost.

Well, Wayne Swan managed to get one prediction right, that being the AT ANY COST proportion of his I'll fated promise.

Now for those who think we are great shape, I again remind them of where we came from, and where we are now IN JUST OVER FOUR YEARS.

Furthermore, where do they think we will be in another four years if nothing changes, remembering, you can only spend money once.

Why would anyone think it is surprising that a workers' union would not support a Liberal Government. It was Howard's LNP government which introduced Work Choices with disregard for their voters, a gross deception taking advantage of a majority in the Senate. The same people who protest too much about the Carbon Tax 'lie' completely foget that Howard passed IR legislation that was not put to the electorate prior to the election. This is the same as a lie.

Anyone who thinks the unions should support the Liberals with their history of following the USA with its expanding 'living poor' and homeless record is dreamin'.

Rechtub! we part ways again.
With no doubt in my mind, and with full confidence, I think your team is not ready to govern.
You may say as you wish, it is important to understand I too have that right.
Buried under the NSW Filth, the power brokers support for their actions in putting Gillard in power, I see truth, think about the current tell the neighbors , idiot thing about refugees.
Truly consider,Abbott,s refusal to help by pass the greens and put the FULL RECOMMENDATIONS of Gillards committee to end the boats.
Rechtub, as other posters contemplate who is right you or me.
Just look, eyes wide open brain switched on, not the Homer Simpson type, and consider this thread, its title, and the idea you tried to sell us here, you do not have a leg to stand on mate.
Quick word to ALP, while we , the thinkers of us, can see how bad the incoming government are to be, its a shame you fail to see Rudd,s polling.