Look its not unions, it is them!
Butchers.
By the time you get to mid life you have bought the butchers right thumb over a thousand times!
Cut every butchers right thumb off for a better Australia.
Sorry can not help myself, just had to contribute at the very low intellectual level such threads plumb.

All that's left to say is to point out the old adage, "Change is life and life is Change"
Anthonyve,
There's a more appropriate one for you "Bad things happen when good people do nothing".
Life is change yes but so is stupidity & it is changing for the worse thanks to the educated but utterly unenlightened. Tell me one, just one policy implemented by Government which was thought of by a blue collar worker. None, because all policies are dreamed up by educated people. So who is the guilty one ? The educated or the thinking ?

Anthonyve,
I had a few glances at observation point & found that there's plenty of what's not working, no good, proven to be no good etc etc. No solutions are suggested (maybe if I read further) how to reduce the problems we have in our society. Why not ? Because THE MAIN REASON FOR OUR PROBLEMS is too many people getting too much in return for too little, whilst others get too little for too much in return. I have yet to see an economist or commentator grab the bull by the horns & state the obvious, DO WITH LESS because that's what you're worth. I am so appalled at how much our Public Servants use up from our tax dollar. Why do we have to contribute to Super whilst Public Servants get it just about for free ? Why do I have to keep paying for what I have already bought ? Rates ? for what ? I already pay tax ? Look at registration fees, it's become unaffordable to even have a scooter so you only need the car for when a car is necessary. Look at safety equipment, unaffordable. Look at fines, unaffordable. We're on the brink of affordability. Why ? So our public service can keep on bludging because we get nothing in return from them. What about Health & emergency services I hear you say ? Well, aren't we paying taxes for that ? Tell me Anthony what would you say would be a fair wage ceiling for senior bureaucrats in Australia ?

Ah Anton, a typical response of someone with no answers is to start the personal insults.

And yes I have done a few bucks in recent years, a bit less than a million at least, and no, I don't blame anyone for it, but hey, you have to first have it to loose it.

I made very good money by working very hard, very long hours in butcher shops and, as the cash tin is running low, it's time to go back in.

All that despite supporting god knows how many bludgers, and kids of families that couldn't afford to have them.

Of cause my kids got zilch by way of government support, but hey, that's the price one pays here for success.

But at least for the middle part of my business life,my prime you might say, I could rely on my elected government to not waste every cent I paid in tax, and some.

I think you would be hard pressed to find a business owner today that feels that way.

Belly, you would'nt have a spare right thumb you could loan me mate, I only have two of my own.

Athonyv while you need no help in understanding those two post I will explain.
In an effort to rebuke you Indy and Rechtub, in two posts aiming at that.
Let us see it is them not you, who lack understanding and balance.
Indy, with similar intellect to Abbott understanding of finances, could one day run for Katters idiots party.

Hi Belly,
I lmow what you mean.
Rechtub seems to think he's some kind of hero for doing no more than what millions of others have done.
Only the others don't have a huge chip on their shoulders.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au