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Does a female rape victim ever bear any responsibility for this abhorrent crime ?

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Good afternoon to you BELLY...

As ever you're on the money ol' friend. The Wanda murders ? I was fortunate enough to speak with a bloke who worked on that matter. He reckoned they were running around chasing their tails with conflicting evidence even though they had a bloke in their sights, it's just they could't tie him in with what (admissable evidence) they had ?

AS you say, would anyone of us like such an abomination or obscenity to occur to our sister or any other female member of our families ? Decidedly not !

You and I are of similar age BELLY ? Do you believe violence towards women is worsening, more so than back in the late fifties to the early seventies ?

It's just I was thinking of the Beaumont Children (in south Aussie), Virginia Morse in Moree, Anita Cobby, Liverpool and others ? I suppose violence is violence ! Whatever decade it was perpetuated in ? In my memory, the Virginia Morse murder certainly eclipsed anything I'd ever had to confront. I was fortunate, I was only at the edge of things, a lot of blokes at the coal face found it very very hard. When Crump and Baker were ultimately arrested, it was a case of who's going to protect them from the police themselves ? Such was the disgust and loathing everybody had for the two.

Gee, they've done some boob now. Crump, the weak link of the two actually sought a parole hearing I believe. Naturally, it was not anywhere on the radar. Neither it should be either.

Even the male population of Moree, were out to get them, yet these dedicated 'jacks' had to swallow their own over-stretched emotions and protect those vile creatures, from others ! A funny world, ah Belly !

Cheers...Sung wu.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 19 January 2013 4:05:42 PM
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Yes o sung wo 67 this way.
We must understand some are too young to share our memory's, of some horrible acts.
Mrs Morse,how that hurt.
I am a ham radio and electronics fan.
Many years ago, a small town Copper, one of 5 in that station stopped and asked me to take a ride, in his high way patrol car!
We became mates.
His radio needed fixing, just tuning really.
He was involved in that case.
He, like me, was an out sider in that xenophobic small town.
He went on to far bigger things,bet his ex workmates want his friendship now.
I am unsure, women are in more or less danger now, but see, here, and in real life,a willingness to forget the humanity of the victim.
And strange but informative,a firing up, if it is thought a foreigner is involved.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 20 January 2013 6:39:53 AM
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o sung wu,
In answer to your question,my opinion is Yes, in some circumstances.

Females generally dress to attract males by enhancing their sexuallity. One cannot say their clothing and footwear is practical. Not that I advocate change as, like most males, I admire the female form. But sometimes the clothing and flirtacous conduct can give inviting signals to males. For example, a woman who willingly goes with a number of males to their hotel room for drinks and laughs can hardly cry genuine rape next morning. She has placed herself in a situation of very high probability of sexual encounter.

However I want to test your memory. You recall the gang rapes in the Bankstown area about 2000? I understand the police received about 60 complaints of gang rape and put out madia releases warning public about these attacks. However apparently the media decided not to publish the warnings because it may have adverse publicity on the upcoming Sydney Olympics. Can you confirm if this is correct? If correct, I wonder how many girls would have been saved from rape if the press had acted on police warnings. Surely it would have been a talking point among coppers of the day
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 20 January 2013 8:55:12 AM
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Well I think the feminists got it all wrong.

Now we have the "Slut Walk", and so many admirers of the TV program - Sex in the City. I think all this promiscuity screws up the female's brain. I think Germaine Greer's sole intention was mainly to do what you want with your life, ie. wear red tights with a yellow dress, if you like. I don't think she was espousing for girls/women to dress like sluts - Germaine never did. When I see some the way some young women dress these days, I grimace. Now there are fashion companies that sell clothes to 10yr olds to make then look like they're 20/30 yr olds. I see the same females walking up escalators at railway stations in micro mini outfits etc. - with not a care in the world of anyone looking up their backsides. I think they're incredibly stupid. I think Jay has a point on his comment re Hilali. So then, what do we have? A conflict of cultures for sure. When Muslim men see the way some of these Western women dress compared to their own what do you think this causes? I remember once hearing that one Muslim man’s legal defence was that raping his victim was his cultural thing. So now we have ethnic cultural time bombs.

Look at the old movie stars such as Bette Davis, Ingrid Bergman etc. They had so much more style than the actresses we see today who seem to like revealing as much of their own bodies as possible when they're on parade. I think the the old Hollywood actresses and women back in the 40's/50's were so much more stronger and psychologically together. Ie. they were better role models for females than what we have today. Women and men are both confused these days, particularly men with the messages they receive in all this.
Posted by Constance, Sunday, 20 January 2013 11:30:31 AM
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India - I travelled there in the late 80's and was there for six months. It was a very male dominated society and probably still is. I dressed more or less like a local as I'm a believer of when in Rome - do what the Roman's do. I went to a film festival and I was the only woman in the whole theatre. During a film, I got my toes tickled. I also had my boobs pinched (in Italy, it's bums)once. There were at least six men that had approached me. My response was I shook one of the men and beat his chest. All the men just then ran away. I also had a stone thrown at me when I was in a rik-shaw passing through a Muslim village. In one town, there was a Canadian girl who walked around in shorts. My English male friend who had lived in India for generations warned her that she was dressing inappropriately. This woman was daft. Was she just trying to attract attention?

When I was in Berlin, I remember being approached by Indian males just in the street – wanting to party with me. German males would never do this they were much too coy.
I have a friend who once went out with a Muslim male and he ended up wanting to change her whole look - like go blonde and even change her eyes to blue. She is a brown eyed brunette. She eventually realised this relationship was a mistake.

o sung wu – My father was once a policeman and I remember him saying that all the women who reported domestic violence would always take their man back and never complain again.
Posted by Constance, Sunday, 20 January 2013 11:34:12 AM
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Back to the feminist cause. It’s created monster women. I see them in the workplace. Their precious career, career! in their powerful managerial positions and always going at lengths to go up the ladder while treading over people. They are the worst managers, not all - but most. Apart from the careerists, the rest just hate their jobs and would rather be home instead of having their child in childcare. Hence they’ve become slaves to work, which I don’t think is much different to when women were working in communist factories. Yep, it’s a rat race.
Posted by Constance, Sunday, 20 January 2013 11:35:27 AM
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