The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > General Discussion > Does a female rape victim ever bear any responsibility for this abhorrent crime ?

Does a female rape victim ever bear any responsibility for this abhorrent crime ?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. Page 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. 9
  11. ...
  12. 27
  13. 28
  14. 29
  15. All
"some crimes 'MUST' leave the unfortunate victim so emotionally damaged, death would've been a more preferable and much kinder outcome"

So it would have been kinder to kill the survivors of Changi POW camp?

The euphemism that rape (or death of one's child or loss of sight or whatever) is a fate worse than death rarely means what it says. It helps sufferers express their deep emotional feelings. That is all.

Of course it is far better to handle the victims of terrible events to survive to be handled sensitively and professionally. The aim should be to provide every assistance for them to get on with their lives.

I would question whether rape victims always get such consideration. Well-meaning supporters who continually remind of the enormity of the crime as in repeating the horror of rape and the 'impossibility' of recovery, the lasting memory, are most likely doing more harm than good.

As well, in multicultural Australia it is not prudent to re-awaken any imported tradition or cultural belief that women are blemished forever by rape (and should take the obvious way out).
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 18 January 2013 10:52:09 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
and the affect of porn that portrays woman as always wanting it? Its like giving a 13 year old a v8 and expecting him not to speed. All, of society is to blame for allowing such pervesion to be common.
Posted by runner, Friday, 18 January 2013 11:18:51 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Just a thought.
I as have most men known loose women.
And many who want sex all the time, no surprise we men are the same.
Not trying to be controversial.
But some, views expressed here a reminding me of the recent Rapes in India.
No true, they do.
Next I , and others, some contributing here,
Have expressed views, in Muslim and related threads, about the way we perceive women are treated in those country,s/religions?
Are we any better?
Are we in any way, any better than the Gentleman we men despise who spoke of raw meat in talking of our women?
Is the problem world wide men?
Well no, some of us forget the intention of both sexes is to be admired by the other, even if we do not know it.
Sex drives human actions,it need not be rape opportunity exist without that.
A reality just out of our reach may exist, there can be no Absolutes.
But I think,Absolutely, Rape, by Catholics Priests on boys , by any one is wrong any sex.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 19 January 2013 6:55:55 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
On The Beach,
In the U.S.A the number of men reporting rape does exceed the number of women when prison statistics are added to the general tally, the way statistics usually work is to take each report as an individual crime but in prison the victim may be victimsed daily or weekly over months or years. I've read studies on the phenomenon of prison rape in Australia and it's extremely rare, even consensual homosexual activity is uncommon in our prisons, a relative of mine was in corrections for 16 years mostly at men's prisons and she has told me she never had to deal with a rape and never saw any homosexual activity.
There's an unhelpful tendency to correlate what happens overseas, particularly in the U.S.A with what happens here when in reality we're dealing with two very different societies with different racial dynamics, race is an important factor especially when discussing crime, especially male rape. If we're not willing to separate out Aboriginal or Lebanese crime statistics to make assessments about our society as a whole even though their inclusion drastically skews the overall picture to the negative side so we shouldn't take any notice of African and Mexican crime stats from the U.S.A. As Ann Coulter said the other night, if you want to compare American gun crime to European gun crime you have to take out the Black and Mexican statistics, then you have a picture of a European population whose crime rates are no different to those living in Europe.
So it is with rape.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 19 January 2013 11:09:42 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Individual,
Rape is considered on a par with murder because in days past it was often a death sentence for the victim, they could die in labour from an unwanted pregnancy, die of infection from their wounds or internal injuries or from venereal disease. We men are hard wired to retaliate in a vicious manner against rapists because they endanger our chances of successfully passing on our genes, this is why rape carries about the same penalty as attempted murder and it explains why rapists are loathed and are at risk from even normally peaceful family men.
Andrea Dworkin's "All men rape" statement is the product of a diseased mind, in our society men have always been the primary protectors of women and children and the ones who have dealt with transgressors.
Men don't condone rape, they don't joke about it and when confronted by such crimes they immediately begin to manifest an instinctive desire to torture and kill the perpetrators.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 19 January 2013 11:24:28 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Belly,
Sheikh Hillaly was talking about preventing rape and infidelity by imposing Islamic standards on all women, his comments weren't "sexist", they were dogmatic and unpalatable to the liberal mind but he wasn't saying anything out of line from an Islamic perspective, which is after all the context of his remarks. That speech is available online if you'd care to read it in full.
You're making the same mistake over again, don't compare White populations to non White, there's nothing that can be revealed about our habits and attitudes by studying Indians or Blacks, worry only about your own kind because you'll never understand what motivates outsiders. If your Cocker Spaniel is misbehaving you don't go and ring the German Shepherd Breeders association for advice on correcting the behaviour, right?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 19 January 2013 11:33:18 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. Page 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. 9
  11. ...
  12. 27
  13. 28
  14. 29
  15. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy