Dear runner,

Your political conversation must shift away from
the infantile finger-pointing that now pervades it.
I am surprised at you. You should not condemn
whom God Himself would not condemn. God loves Malcolm
Turnbull, Julia Gillard, equally. God does not need
us to condemn each other on His behalf but to love each
other on His behalf.

God would want you to pray not only for your friends,
but for your 'enemies' as well. And don't pray that
they'll change; pray that you might change, from an
accusatory mind to a loving one.

Susionline

'I fail to see how/why you are such a fan of the Liberal Party or Abbott, when he has such Godless Catholics as Turnbull amongst the faithful? '

I suspect my allegiance to the Liberal party is far less than yours to the sisterhood and its dogmas.

'If anyone doesn't believe in what you believe in, then they are Godless whores.'

I don't know where you pulled that one from Susie. Secular dogmas however often produce many 'godless whores ' as u put it. The evidence is clear.

Lexi

' God loves Malcolm Turnbull, Julia Gillard, equally. God does not need us to condemn each other on His behalf but to love each
other on His behalf.'

Certainly true however when a person is called on to vote, value judgements on policies need to be made. I take it you pray for Abbott. I certainly do for Gillard. To deny that this current Government is toxic because many of its front bench lack character is blindness. I just hope Abbotts cabinet will be a bit although I suspect not much.

One is foolish to think they can seperate a person's personal life when people are in public policy positions. Someone who deny their Creator is far more likely to legislate and encourage young girls and boys to be immoral and to kill unborn babies than someone who knows they are going to held to account. Again I suspect your abbottphobia far outweighs any feelings I might have against Ms Gillard. She has proven herself unable to tell the truth which is consistent with her character. I actually feel sorry for her as I suspect deep down she knows she has lived a lie. One day I pray comes to the One she was taught about as a girl.

Lexi is right Runner, you would do well to heed her advice.

Runner you have such hatred in your heart.
I don't know why I argue with someone who is so steeped in hate for all those who don't believe in what he believes in.

Turnbull would make a great Leader, even though he believes in a God.
Gillard may not have been a great leader, but the insignificant fact that she is an atheist had nothing to do with that.

Whether or not someone believes in an invisible being in the sky doesn't preclude them from being a good political leader.

I have not read all the posts, but a couple of points.

The Labour party has available a few bad choices.
The Liberal party has two, maybe three good choices.

Turnbull I am sure would make a good PM & leader and I think Abbott is
suffering from some years of vicious attacks, culminating in Gillard's
disgraceful mysogeny attack.
Abbott cannot attack the PM without having his sex thrown back at him.
He could in fact be a more down to earth
PM than Turnbull.
I agree that Turnbull is a better speaker and presents very well.
However have we not had enough of show ponies ?
What we need is an intense worker with the ability to sort the public
service BS from the real world.
Our real problem is finding a politician who is willing to believe
that next phase of the world economics is not going to be more of the same.
The only politician that is reported as understanding that we are now
entering a new normal steady state economics is Martin Ferguson.
Any politician that talks of increasing growth, and means it, is
disqualified from running the country.

Bazz,

I still like Joe Hockey.

However, campaign management will play a larger role in the decisions we make this time around. Too much emphasis to date has been placed on personalities [thanks JG], and it is time to remind people that their votes should be made based on party poilicies, not individuals.

With our current enormous deficit generated by Labour, it should be a no brainer who to choose.

The carbon tax decision was made at a time when there were forecasts the mining boom had already showed signs of slowing. Yet this tax was touted as being the revenue boost for government from which we'd all benefit. Hogwash! So far it has produced zero return, but has increased our cost of living, which is pretty obvious to those of us who carefully examine price increases across the board.

Now we hear that the cost of prescriptions will increase. I seem to remember in one of her many speeches JG announcing that health was one of the items on Labours agenda they planned to improve.
Guess this is yet another promise broken in an effort to claw back money from us as they scramble to find ways to reduce the deficit.

How many single mothers still believe she is on their side?

Jenny Macklin says she could live on the dole, but hasn't offered to prove it.

Words are cheap - would like to see how all Labours promises will stand up to serious scrutiny

' Runner you have such hatred in your heart. '

I see Susie you don't believe in an Omniscience God but you think you can read my heart. I feel sorry for you.