Shockadelic,

Give me a break...obviously I gleaned enough of your comments to construe that it wasn't worth my time to pursue.

I find your suggestion outrageous.

Civilisation is more than just cities and technology. Your suggestion merely retrogrades to the tribal stereotype - except that it seeks to utilise modern technology to achieve its ends.

What gets me is that you and the others strut around proclaiming the quality of our society and values. Would you believe that they are built on the foundations of Enlightenment thinking? Yet all we get is the kind of mantra that wouldn't be out of place in the stone age.

Yep, we fool ourselves that we've come a long way. Shocka trumpets technology to accomplish some kind of racial purification - good one, Shocka.

(.....what a shocker!)

Have you ever wondered why those on the political left and Islamisists make such compatible bedfellows?

The answer is likely to lie in how they evaluate things.
If a Islamisits sees something in his holy book it has immediate validatory force.
Likewise, if someone on the left reads something –provided it appears to support their misconceptions–it has similar validatory force

Here’s a case in point from WMTrevor:

<<…I would like to suggest that what the Muslim community at least in Australia has to do is to try and explain that there's no aspect of sharia that is being tried to be introduced here," he [Ikebal Patel, president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils] said.>>

To WMTrevor and one or two others this apparently has the force of a divine injunction.
But in reality it’s just a piece public relations twaddle designed to fool wantabe dhimmies.

And here is why:

1) What force does Mr Patel’s SUGGESTION hold? Even as “president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils” Mr Patel’s influence is limited. And it will be even more limited after Mr Patel moves on.
2) For Mr Patel to imply that there is an disassociated Australian Muslim community is a nonsense –in Islamic terms all Muslims are part of a world Ulma, which is expected to be --and is to a large degree mutually supportive/responsible. Which is why you get 1000s of Muslims from Saudi, Libya and Yemen and fewer, but no less fervent recruits from multicultural, secular Britain and Australia lining up to fight with the Taliban or Al Qaeda or their derivatives.
3) And finally, please look up the meaning of the terms “taqiyya and kitman" They outline the Islamic practice of making treaties/ undertakings/suggestions when they are in a weak position only to renege on them when they get the upper hand. And for those who will respond “Oh that’s just human nature!” NO. It’s core Islamic THEOLOGY--Islamic best practice

[cont...]

And then we have this :
<<[and] ...But Federal Attorney-General Robert McClelland has ruled out any chance of sharia law being introduced to Australia >>

Robert McCelland is a good minister but even he cannot decree that Sharia will not be sought/introduced at some future date.
And by the time we get around to our 35th Attorney General, Abdullah Abdullah (and it may even come sooner than the 35th –if the illegal boaties keep arriving at the current rate),Sharia may well be top of the agenda.

And this:

<< If there is any inconsistency between cultural values and the rules of law then Australian law wins out.">>
You have to catch & convict the offender(s) first. Something the police investigating the spate of drive-by murders in SW Sydney are not having too many winnings doing.

And if you're not at least a teensy-wenssy bit panicky after that, it's not likely to be due to good intestinal fortitude --but rather mule headed Intransigence.

SPQR two posters have given us a task.
Ignore truth at any cost.
And pretend nothing bad ever happened to Australians as a direct result of these folk.
And that no Muslim wants sharia law here.
Lets forget the gang Rapes
The mother and child holding that sign, sing people sing every thing is beautiful in the whole world.
Try not to get our off tune if the person next to you gets shot raped or murdered.
LEFT? how dare they,the creeping illness calling its self left blacken past generations who fought at least for equity.
POIROT, no need exists for you to read my comments, I read yours until the hollyer than thou bit then leave.
No need for Lexi of csteele to talk to me.
I am not alone in my thoughts.
And far from it in knowing we will suffer at the hands of a primitive creed teaching difference in the name of a God that never existed.

POIROT, no need exists for you to read my comments..."

Oh but Belly, I'm receiving an education in reading your recent comments...you see, I've never struck anyone in real life who carries on like you.

Fascinating.....

Poirot "Shocka trumpets technology to accomplish some kind of racial purification"

I specifically stated otherwise.
You don't "purify" something by not changing it, you simply *maintain* it.

If you have a house full of hounds, but no terriers, does that "purify" the hounds?
Are they "perfected"? Uberhounds?

"Pure" Australians? ROFL!
We are rude, mischievous mongrels!
Irony alert: Hitler expected Japan to wipe us out. Apparently didn't care.

"I find your suggestion outrageous."

I find your utopian fantasies that will see the eventual death of all White peoples, cultures and civilisation "outrageous".

The most outrageous crime in all history.
You are *worse* than the Nazis!

Speaking of civilisation:
"Civilization is more than just cities and technology."

Damn right. There's plenty of tech (borrowed from us) and cities in Africa, The Middle East and Asia.

Much of the cultural norms though "wouldn't be out of place in the stone age".

The tribal instinct is even more pronounced among the "coloured" peoples, and they didn't even go through an "Enlightenment" era.

That was us, Whites, Europeans, not "humanity/the world/the species".
No, just *us*.

Our values, principles and ideas are not universal, they are *ours*, a product not just of the Enlightenment, but thousands of years of prior thought and action.

Most "coloured" cultures haven't evolved much at all in the last thousand years.
Their "civilisations" are fossilised.

What new beneficial social developments originated *outside* the West (or our influence) in the last 1000 years? Anything?!

"we fool ourselves that we've come a long way."

You fool yourself that you're "enlightened".

The Enlightenment was about the search for truth.
You have a "faith", not truth.
There's nothing factual about your utopian fantasies.
They fly in the face of anthropology, biology/genetics, history/archeology, linguistics.

I am honest about the known tribal nature of Man.
You are not. You inconsistently acknowledge it when it's a minority (that's good, pride, community), but deny it to any predominantly White population (that's bad, closed-minded, xenophobic).

I want to use technology to *minimise* the worst potential outcomes of that tribalism.
You just cross your fingers and hope.