@Poirot,

<<And have a bit more faith in our culture - that's it's not going to bend, wilt and crumble at the first encounter with an outside culture>>

It may have escaped your notice – ensconced as you are in your ivory tower--but there is no longer an OUR culture – it's MULTI-culture—and there-in lies 2/3s of the problem!

-"I have seen such differences, however, when police asked to intervene in domestic violence cases where ethnic groups such as South Asians or Middle Eastern couples are involved. Police often keep greater distance in such cases, some believe that cultural factors are at play and the families should be left to their own devices. We do not offically have parallel laws for other groups, but variable enforcement can have the same effect" [Tanveer Ahemd --Psychiarist & appointee to the Australian Multicultual Council -- SMH 24-25 Sept 2011 -The Essay-P22]

In case you missed it:
-"I have seen such differences, however, when police asked to intervene in domestic violence cases where ethnic groups such as South Asians or Middle Eastern couples are involved. Police often keep greater distance in such cases, some believe that cultural factors are at play and the families should be left to their own devices. We do not offically have parallel laws for other groups, but variable enforcement can have the same effect" [Tanveer Ahemd --Psychiarist & appointee to the Australian Multicultual Council -- SMH 24-25 Sept 2011 -The Essay-P22]

And again:
-"I have seen such differences, however, when police asked to intervene in domestic violence cases where ethnic groups such as South Asians or Middle Eastern couples are involved. Police often keep greater distance in such cases, some believe that cultural factors are at play and the families should be left to their own devices. We do not offically have parallel laws for other groups, but variable enforcement can have the same effect" [Tanveer Ahemd --Psychiarist & appointee to the Australian Multicultual Council -- SMH 24-25 Sept 2011 -The Essay-P22]

That's funny, SPQR,...it seems to me that society has got better at exposing domestic violence and offering protection and alternative situations for women who require it.

Just harking back to my own childhood. In our house our Anglo-Saxon/Irish pappy used to knock about mum with monotonous regularity - especially when he'd gone through his wages gambling and wanted some of hers (part-time work wages)...so we went through that for years - until she got up the guts to leave him.

That was in the wonderful sixties where a blind eye was turned in such situations, where there was no support for women outside the domestic situation (and where there were hardly any Muslims)....but we had a very "nice" culture consisting mainly of Anglo-Saxons and an increasing population of southern Europeans, and apparently if you were a woman or a child in constant fear and danger, there was nowhere to turn.

There is now.

Strange that we've managed to achieve that while simultaneously our culture has received more diverse people?

So humans are humans....things apparently alter with the passage of time. Muslim women would be far more likely to seek help from authorities if they weren't cowed by the sort of sentiments that have been openly expressed in this thread.

@Poirot,

<< Muslim women would be far more likely to seek help from authorities if they weren't cowed by the sort of sentiments that have been openly expressed in this thread>>

Interesting that you should identify sentiments expressed on this forum as responsible for cowering Muslim women -–you are never at loss to blame someone else, ay?

You wouldn’t consider that the reason for them cowering might lay closer to home—like, perhaps, their core belief system: (Qur’an (4:11) – “The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females”) ?

And, so, what would your alibi be for the (general) refusal of the Muslim community of SW Sydney to assist police Investigations following-up on a spate of drive-by shootings and murders –is that all because of the sentiments expressed on OLO too?

<< in the … sixties… a blind eye was turned in such situations, where there was no support for women outside the domestic situation...>>

But isn’t a little strange that that many of those who fought to overcome those injustices –-or leastways tell everyone they were front and centre fighting to overcoming them are now soooooooo silent when addressing the greater injustices perpetuated under the name of Islam –you can see from the article I quoted even the police are stand-offish.

Mind you, I don’t blame the police for wanting to “ keep greater distance” in cases of “domestic violence [involving] South Asians or Middle Eastern couples” since every time there is an issue there are demands for royal commissions and all the multicultural watchdogs’ --egged-on by people like you --go on a police hunt.

SPQR,

I'm presuming you are an adult...?

Of course, I'm not blaming OLO comments per se for anything. I'm saying that if the likes of yours and Belly's attitudes are typically bandied about - then that is unhelpful to integration in general.

You blokes positively revel in anything that is negative regarding Muslim's. You skitter about poking around in the MSM for little stories - anything it seems to paint Muslims in a bad light..."cherry-picking", it's called - and it's a favourite of those who desperately need fire-power for their arguments (happens in the climate debate all the time from "skeptics")

There are just as many positive stories out there regarding Muslim settlement...but you guys aren't interested in them because it doesn't back your scaredy-cat paranoia

Poirot,

<<I'm presuming you are an adult...?>>
I'm used to assume you were a human being …though of late the evidence is mounting that you might actually be a Matrix Sentinel [see footnote 1]

<<You blokes positively revel in anything that is negative regarding Muslim's. You skitter about poking around in the MSM for little stories - anything it seems to paint Muslims in a bad light..."cherry-picking>>
I’m going to throw a curly one at you –so, take a seat and a firm grip. Have you ever considered the possibility that not all creeds carry equal degrees of “goodness” and “badness” and that some may have an over abundance of bad cherries to pick?

<<it's a favourite of those who desperately need fire-power for their arguments (happens in the climate debate all the time from "skeptics")>>
Interesting that you bring up (your second hobby horse) climate change.
I find it intriguing that in the AGW debate (your principle role in which seems to be to haranguing anyone who doesn’t swallow the official line), you stand firmly with the mob who argue that it is better to be safe than sorry. If the temperature are trending up, the weather is unsettled. Whether or not we are sure of the causes it makes good sense to cut CO2 emissions. Yet on the immigration/multicultural issue you are an über-denialist refusing to heed any warnings or take precautionary measures.

Footnote 1: “Sentinels - The primary Machine fighting force, Sentinels are designed to hunt down and exterminate any free humans. They look like mechanical alien squids, earning them the nickname "Squiddies" by the Resistance. They have numerous tentacles with claws and scanning devices and several red eyes on their heads. They are also armed with lasers which they use to cut into Resistance ships.”

SPQR,

Yes, regarding the "I'm presuming you are an adult" line - apologies for that.

However, regarding climate change, I know it's kinda kooky to give credence to those who are qualified to measure the empirical evidence, but there you go, we all have our failings.