Loudmouth,

So even though 1998 was the warmest year of the series, and the next nine warmest years are all in the decade 2001-2010, you appear to consider that that indicates that warming has "slowed to a stop"...and "long-term trend" still means nothing to you?

Okay.....: )

So we're back at square one..."If someone arrives at a conclusion from carefully selected evidence that contradicts the conclusion drawn from the full body of evidence, that's cherry picking."

Yep, that's cherry picking - and you're a cherry picker (although I'm sure you're the cleverest "skeptic" cherry picker around)

It's a waste of time attempting to debate climate with a cherry picker.

Btw, don't bother apologising for the Staffie reference - it's not as if I take notice of your blathering analogies...after all, you tell us that [you] do not resort to personal insults or slurs. (I've been debating you long enough, Joe, to realise that the sentiments underlying most of your posts to me are anything but sincere - and usually couched in snide undertones)

I'll leave you with this interactive doohickey from NASA.

http://climate.nasa.gov/interactives/climate_time_machine

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/abbotts-whiteline-fever-20121207-2b11i.html
I am far from being a dreamer.
I know, and it hurts, that Labor has very little chance in the up comeing election.
But the Carbon tax fear campaign, and its inventive inventor, Tony Abbott.
Along with changing world views, gives us just a glimpse of a way around Gillards gang of 4.

Looks neat time to wrap it up.
We have visited this theme in many threads.
And we will do it again, and again.
My honestly held view is each time we do the climate, not earths but surrounding this subject has changed.
More and more are coming to think we need to act.
Even more, yet that number too will get bigger,see the Abbott mountain, returning to its true very small pimple.
Yet Doha again seems to prove, if we act this slowly we will suffer much more for it.
SOME who deny are doing so with out truly understanding the subject.
Others refuse to understand it.
And yes some truly believe we warmists as they call us are wrong.
At the end of the debate, when words need no other proof and the change is here.
One side or the other will have to admit they got it wrong.
Want to bet?
Even then some refuse to even think they could be wrong.

Hi Belly,

Thanks for this thread. There was a news report on the pedal wireless this morning, pointing out that global temperatures have risen over the past fifteen (or twenty?) years, precisely in line with what climate scientists predicted. If this is so, then I'll join you warmist fellas.

Poirot will be rapt.

Cheers,

Joe

I believe this was the story:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-10/climate-change-conforming-to-un-predictions/4417644

Hi Poirot,

Okay, " .... emissions now sitting at 58 per cent above 1990 levels", but how much have temperatures risen since then ? The article seems to skip over that aspect, focussing on increases in emissions.

Joe