Tony Lavis,

I'm sure you feel triumphant whenever you helicopter into threads to unload your dollops of wisdom...we all have to get our jollies somehow.

I'm not fussed either way about his comparison with a thermonuclear war.....and if I wish to acknowledge another poster who happens to agree with my take on climate change - then I bloody well will.

Loudmouth,

Still focusing on short periods of the surface temperature record?

Perhaps you should start your own "skeptic" blog....I'm sure you'll be able to tell all those climate scientists where they're going wrong and how dumb it is for them to bother charting "long-term trends".

: )

I have a question.
Now first I believe in man made climate change.
And I understand the climate is always changing.
I am guilty, I can not stop myself, knowing humanity is both great and not so great.
Knowing we show little regard for the environment, if it gets in the way of profit.
Knowing the population of this world has grown near three times from 1750 till now.
I believe we have impacted more in that time than any living or now dead animal ever did.
What is in it for me, and half this worlds population?
Why have we got it wrong been conned tricked, why are my detractors right and I wrong?

Hi Poirot,

Jeez, ride your push-bike up the street and all the dogs bark at you. Including Poirot's Staffie.

I'm not trying to tell anybody anything, I'm simply trying to ask questions and get some sort of straight answer.

Has global warming slowed to a stop in the last fifteen years, or not ?

Yes ?

No ?

If it has, then what has that to do with CO2 production which has risen by 50 % in that time ?

Of course it's all complicated, and certainly beyond me, but if something is happening which was predicted not to happen, then even an idiot has the right, if not the obligation, to ask questions.

Yes, you're right, in a suitably Utopian society, I would be put up against a wall for disturbing general community well-being. Thankfully, we will never have such a society, but keep dreaming of the day, Poirot :)

Cheers,

Joe

No

If you're standing on the escalator, you don't feel like you're walking up an incline because you are standing perfectly flat...but you're going up!

Now I realise that you keep saying that you are innocently asking questions - in fact, you keep asking the same question even though you have repeatedly been given the answer. If you can't read a graph or digest the information provided in links, it's hardly the fault of the people who have provided them for you, Loudmouth.

http://climate.nasa.gov/key_indicators/

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warming

"The period 2001-2010...was 0.20c warmer than the 1991-2000 decade.... The warmest year of the entire series has been 1998, with a temperature of 0.55c above the 1961-90 mean. After 1998, the next nine warmest years in the series are all in the decade 2001-2010. During this decade, only 2008 is not in the ten warmest years. Even though 2008 was the coldest year of the 21st century, it was still the 13th warmest year of the whole record."

(again)..."...After 1998, the next nine warmest years in the series are all in the decade 2001-2010..."

That doesn't sound to me as if warming has "slowed to a stop".

Hi Poirot,

It's late on a Friday night, but from the data you produced eventually, it appears that 2008 was the coldest year since 1998 - is that right ? That since 1998, average world temperatures have not risen, is that right ?

Notice that I do not resort to personal insults or slurs, simply that I am asking what to a thickie like me seems to be a simple question.

Have average world temperatures risen since 1998, or not ?

A simple 'yes' would do.

And I apologise for the analogy between you and a Staffie - on reflection, perhaps I should have talked about chihuahuas. What do you reckon ?

Now back to the red wine ....... mmmmmmmmmmm

Cheers,

Joe,

:)

Now for something a little different....

Lord Monckton is providing the light entertainment tonight...apparently the good Lord has been debadged and escorted out of the Doha conference for impersonating a delegate in a plenary session.

"The UN now confirms that Lord Monckton ha been permanently barred from the UNFCCC process."

http://www.desmogblog.com/2012/12/06/monckton-banned-un-climate-process-offensive-stunt

(Don't miss Monckton in full costume in the linked video - titled "The Serious Business of Climate Denial" starring 'Lord" Monckton:)

Guffaaww!