Look, I don't *know* that climate change is real or not.
However there are a number of things that make me skeptical.

The British Met Office recently published a report that there has been
no global warming for 15 years. The BMO is closely connected to the IPCC.

Another report from the NOAA says the Argo buoys have not reported an
ocean temperature rise since they were launched.

Another report says we are starting to see early signs of the next ice age.
If so we should burn all the coal we can lay hands on !

To top it off there is a very cogent argument that it will be very
much cheaper to not try and beat it, but to spend money mitigating
the effects as they occur.

So, it is no wonder that there is confusion.

bazz: this was trotted out recently and was exposed as the usual rubbish.
A newspaper in the UK misinterpreted the information and used this as a headline. The British met office put out a release the next day to say that it was rubbish and that they had not said that.

All the rest of your argumant is very high on the BS meter and should be ignored.
Sorry but you are not in the right ball park.
I could give you all the relevent links..... again but just cannot be bothered anwering i full again.

Interesting Robert, I will go looking tomorrow at BMO and NOAA.
Trouble is the BS meter goes off the scale when some of our own
experts predict the dams will never be full again.

Well let me start again, but first Bazz you have been told the truth it was wrong.
No easy way around this, my thoughts and words about the greens hurt greens.
But are the true feelings of better than 80% of this country,s people.
You should not avoid that truth.
WHY, well policy,s, end to coal use, almost emediately.
End to forest timber harvesting, gay marriage like it or not is not universally popular.
Migration and refugee policy's, Drug policy's, the new leadership, gee what more do you want?
Greens are dieing.
And any party seen as in harness with them is being damaged.
However far from just a green thing climate change is real, much more real the the morris dancing greens.
And increasingly the world is responding.
Abbott will not rescind the carbon tax.
Any more than he will admit his great big new tax is a lie.
Hate my words about the greens, but know they are shared by about nine to every one of the greens who see me wrongly as the only enemy they have.
Both government and opposition best serve Australian voters by dissolving both houses for a double dissolution election, and preference each other.
No party with 11% should have so much wasted power.

SM, I expect no less from you. As an arch conservative you must oppose everything that is good and progressive. I sus that Old Grandpa SM was most likely opposed to the building of the Sydney Harbor Bridge as it "will never be needed" or widows pensions "will send the country broke." The only thing conservatives are gung-ho about is war.
Belly as the Labor Party is falling apart around you, you cling to the notion that the end of the Greens is just around the corner. You call for a DD of federal parliament, bring it on give us the opportunity here in NSW to add the fantastic talents of a friend of mine Cate Faehrmann to those of Lee Rhiannon in the Senate, no matter Cate will get elected next year anyway.

Paul after launching in to Gentle man Poster SM, well done too.
You try VALIANTLY to take his CROWN.
Dead heat,wait for the camera on this one.
JOY! true I get joy from the subject, we are told the UN many of its branches China a host of country's are wrong!
And as we near the point even Abbott will stick to one view, and not kill the tax.
I see very few who are other than anti every thing telling us it is not true.
Now if only we can convince the greens not to give us the kiss of death, best thing they can do?
Tell us climate change is crap!
Then thousands would come over.
See no one answered.
1 is it real.
2 is man playing a roll.
3 can we do any thing about it.
4 is it good or bad?