Hi Paul.

Thanks for that.

According to Loudmouth, it's all very simple and not at all complex. Qanda's link has a wealth of information, and if Joe wished to digest or even challenge his bias a little, he could. He doesn't want to because he thinks he's got it pegged. In the simplified world of the non-climate scientist "skeptic", it's all so cut and dried...no complexity at all, and definitely no such thing as a "long-term trend".

Gawd!, one wouldn't dream that the myriad thousands of scientists who study the earth's climate and associated subjects, could be so consistently maligned by ignorance and bluster.

Okay - just as an aside...

I'm thinking of the flat I shared with my brother in 1977 - in Claremont, just up the road from the pool. He who played his Led Zeppelin records too loud and who got up in the morning about three minutes before he had to leave for uni....(he ended up being a science teacher)...and the record that got stuck on those words.

That Steve Miller Band song was "Abracadabra".

The key words:

"I heat up I can't cool down.
My situation goes round and round"

How apt, don't you think?

Arabia looking to put 110 billion into solar. That should do something and probably create some new ideas as well.

579,

Yes, and probably cap some of their wells too, they're not stupid: make the stuff last a few hundred years, not just a few decades.

Poirot,

I'm a patient sort of bloke, I can wait until you actually answer yes or no, instead of just gillarding me.

Cheers,

Joe

:)

qanda I was not having a shot at you.
It is clear to me you know far more than me.
Not claiming I am stupid,research constantly but you and others know.
Been battered in a newer thread, the anti warmist,s are on the loose again.
That thread makes mountains out of carbon tax and flogs believers for it.
But after all how much has petrol risen by in say 10 or 20years?
Mini cyclone that ripped in to Auckland and such is asking for answers.

>>and without being too melodramatic, as disastrous in the long term for our planet as a thermonuclear war would be.<<

A thermonuclear war. I want whatever Paul's smoking.

You're right about one thing Paul: it isn't melodrama it's bullsh!t.

>>Hi Paul.

Thanks for that.<<

I love the way you correct sceptics on their unscientific bullsh!t and thank Paul for his. Maybe if you guys spent more time reigning in the wackier doomsayers on your own side instead of trying to persuade rusted on deniers your message would be more persuasive to the great unwashed.

Cheers,

Tony