Cmon Belly, don't foil the entertainment. SM & Paul bring some much needed insight to the forum.
I am poised and waiting to see who converts who....

Man of The Land OK fair cop.
I have mud wrested both Paul is a first round victory .
Shadow Minister?
Even after a loss he tells me he won!
See I lie.
Never get it right.
Get conned.
Silly me.
And here I am, fool that I am, thinking some resemblance to reality was the best path.
I am concerned most, about the debate.
about what actions we can take at little cost and why we insure our homes and cars, life and health, but baulk at insuring the Planet.

SM,
Sorry, wrong answer they were all warmongers by my definition.You can throw in Gillard if you like. However you have won a consultation prize, you get to take a pop gun to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban. The carbon Tax, that's it, opposition to the carbon tax is the greatest achievement of the conservatives in Australia in the past 100 years.SM if that's it your definitely off to Affganistan.
ManOfTheland, the only reason I'm dirty on the conserves is they wouldn't let me join the Melbourne Club cause I wasn't wearing the right tie, in fact I wasn't wearing no tie at all, they thought I was a bolshevik. Also once, I got ejected from a Lady McMahon garden party by a couple of Liberal heavies, I thing it was Alexander Downer and Bronwyn Bishop. No matter, besides the cucumber sambo's were crap and she served domestic champers, some people have no class.
Tony,Tony,Tony, are you Tony Abbott, how can you equate Muslim terrorists = flying into buildings = killing kid in Afghanistan. For all we know, they could have been Jehovah Witness's on a mission for the CIA, or George Bush or God or anyone you like to name. None of it is a reason to kill kids in Afghanistan or anywhere else for that matter including Sydney Australia.

"they wouldn't let me join the Melbourne Club cause I wasn't wearing the right tie, in fact I wasn't wearing no tie at all"

That is most unfortunate. So it was mostly about the tie? Did they not have a problem with the bare feet, thongs, green peace t-shirt and the fact you were smoking a joint?

Never mind, I got knocked back because I had too much mud on my blundstones.

>>For all we know, they could have been Jehovah Witness's on a mission for the CIA, or George Bush or God or anyone you like to name. None of it is a reason to kill kids in Afghanistan or anywhere else for that matter including Sydney Australia.<<

They could have been - except for George Bush because he'd have been killed in the incident and he wasn't - but they weren't: they were Saudi Arabian Muslims. That doesn't justify the invasion of Afghanistan (Saudi Arabia perhaps). Nevertheless it was what precipitated the invasion of Afghanistan: had it never occurred I am quite confident that Afghanistan would not have been invaded.

Take off your al-foil hat and stop listening to paranoids. The 9/11 conspiracy theories are BS: we know who was piloting those planes and it wasn't the CIA or the NWO. As I said earlier it was some Saudi Arabian Muslims.

Your ham-fisted historical revisionism is hilarious: claiming that 'For all we know, they could have been Jehovah Witness's on a mission for the CIA, or George Bush' when we know exactly who they were is like claiming that 'for all we know, King James VI of Scotland and I of England was also King James V of Sweden' or 'for all we know it was the South who were the abolitionists and the North the slavers in the American Civil War' or 'for all we know Elvis is still alive'. We know James never held the Swedish throne, we know the North were the abolitionists in the American Civil War, we know Elvis is dead - they did an autopsy on him so if he wasn't dead before he certainly was afterwards - and we know it was Saudi Arabian Muslims and not anybody else who flew planes into buildings on 9/11.

What do you hope to achieve by pretending it was somebody else?

Cheers,

Tony

Paul,

Fortunately your definition and opinion is not worth the paper it's printed on.

Dictionaries define warmonger - a politician who tries to start a war, or a person who encourages or advocates aggression or warfare towards other nations or groups. None of which applies to the politicians you mentioned.

As for you being ejected, I guess that it had less to do with your lack of tie, more like the lack of a bath for a month, or atrocious behaviour.