Paul,

Crikey is a left / Green supporting blog, and are not the only ones talking of the frictions in the Greens. Lee Rhiannon is the deep red centre of the Green watermelon and is tilting at windmills that have long since ceased to exist. She also peddles conspiracy theories that should get her a tin foil hat nut job award.

The answer to your question is the Carbon tax.

Also none of Menzies, Holt, McEwen, Gorton, McMahon, Fraser and Howard were war mongers. I don't recall any one of them starting a war. By your definition Juliar is a warmonger.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/degrees-of-devastation-major-report-warns-of-drastically-hotter-planet-20121119-29l3c.html
You should humor Paul SM he is a mirror image of your self, not much interested in the truth.
The link,from a warning from the world bank, that a 4 degrees rise in temperature this century is probable.
Interests me, my memory's of past contributions seems to have the world bank as part of a criminal conspiracy, in relation to climate change.
See? that book has potential.
But what if they are right?
Tell you what lets toss for it,heads 4 degrees tails two OK?
Heads!
ah toss again cannt be right.

Belly,

A little rich coming from you, the arch pontificator and ad hominem dispenser, your posts are not known for accuracy. I would have put you a lot closer to Paul in the truth stakes. I note that you have almost never tried to challenge me on what I post, which means that you tacitly acknowledge its veracity.

This is the same world bank that was so worried about Y2K?

SM, actually Y2K was a real problem.
Thousands and thousands of programmers were involved in modifying and
checking existing programs. Even I got involved in a very small way.
I had to write a program to convert a file to suit my BBSs new date
recognition.

So it was real, but fortunately the precautions that were taken saved
quite a bit of panic that would have occurred if nothing had been done.

>>Also none of Menzies, Holt, McEwen, Gorton, McMahon, Fraser and Howard were war mongers. I don't recall any one of them starting a war. By your definition Juliar is a warmonger.<<

I don't recall Gillard starting a war either. The only one I know we're fighting in is the Afghanistan War and Gillard din't start that: Muslim terrorists flying into buildings did.

Cheers,

Tony

SM,

Even the World Bank is sitting up and taking notice...I believe the IMF was also talking about this issue "seriously" earlier this year. These two organisations have been at the forefront of promoting relatively unfettered industrial progress over recent decades. If they're signalling we need a rethink, then I believe the message might be making it to the places it needs to go.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au/news/2012/08/120820-extreme-weather-heat-waves-science-environment-global-warming/