Banjo,

My point being that it's humans who have a steak of insanity running through them.

Good old "group-think" - anything that pushes the "hysteria" button gets things moving to a greater or a lesser extent - to a greater extent in the riot - to a lesser extent on this thread.

Driven by fear mostly....

This whole thing is sick now you have an 8 year old girl getting up in front of the Sydney conference spewing out this.
Quote "urged all Muslim youth to fight for the restoration of the Islamic caliphate, a single global government for all Muslims established under strict sharia law"
ALSO Quote "she yearns to once again live under the banner of (the Islamic state)"
I will gladly send Juliar an email saying she can use my taxes to pay for this girl and her family to go home where the parents originally came from. $10 says they would not go

URL for story
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/girl-8-calls-on-islamic-youth-to-back-jihad/story-e6frg6nf-1226475239074

Islam as a general rule does not advocate democracy.
This is because they do not make a distinction between religion and politics.
Religion is politics and politics is religion.
The aim is to establish the Caliphate over all the world or whatever
part they can dominate to enable sharia law to be implemented.
The Caliphate is a religious government.

So when a moslem swears allegiance to Australia in a naturalisation,
ceremony they do not mean it.
It is just a means to an end.
They pay taxes and obey the law (mostly) only because they have no
choice, while they await the caliphate to be established.

Just a general comment on Semitic peoples…………they are not good neighbours when they achieve critical mass. Most Semitic people come from the Middle East, with the exception of the few that travelled to Europe over a thousand years ago, the best known of these groups are the Ashkenazi Jews.

Semitic tribes, and they are still tribes, embrace a culture whose rules were laid down over two thousand years ago. They fight amongst themselves as much as they struggle against outsiders and tribal group thinking pervades the society.

I recall how the European Jews who inherited Israel in 1948 violently protested when Ethiopian Jews tried to immigrate to Israel. Later it was the Russian Jews who did not fit the bill and were and still are ostracized in Yiddish and Orthodox Israel cultures.

In most Semitic nations you have a culture divided, even the Mohammadans who never kicked off until 700AD found a divider for their new societies….Sunni or Shia. The point is that the Arab brother is only a brother if he is on your team, if not you can kill him, and they do regularly. So the expectation that they will accept an infidel or adopt the infidel’s culture or rules is post grad dreamtime.
TBC

Please do not recount to me about the Arabs or Jews who you have know for decades and they are ordinary folks, like yourself, because you are naively wrong. They are ordinary folks, but there is one major difference. You can never be like them because as they perceive it because you are not from their tribe, and as simplistic as that sounds it is fact and the primary fact that gives them their identity as a people and you are totally alien to it.

Multiculturalism has failed, but a multinational society that primary adheres to one culture but with grafts from the home country added works beautifully and enriches the host culture. We have seen it in the New World Countries such as America, Canada, and here in Australia. I have the vaguest of memories of the post WWII immigration intake, it was the first time I heard Australian spoken with an accent, except at the local Chinese restaurant. Then the supposedly dreaded hordes from South East Asia and Vietnam invaded us and became great citizens, who embrace Aussie culture while keeping their roots.

Then we imported the Muslims, the Semites, and we received exactly the afore described cultural character traits that sees chaos and upheaval as the norm rather than co existence. But it is a critical mass thing, they will wait before becoming vocal and demanding, it's starting now.