Rechtub! Butcher are you aware of your increasingly bad habit?
In a post above you take me to task for?
Saying what it is like in America,oh you say sorry.
To two others.
Have you noted my absence from many of your threads?
See you lash out too much, but at others now.
You are no better than any to comment.
This thread is about America, yabby has got it word perfect.
Instant anger, some thing we can never take back, can lead to killing even the one we love most, if the gun is at hand.
No one ever used guns more than me, for a while my life was built around sporting shooting.
Ferrel cats foxes, first Ducks for me, the odd Roo for my dogs.
Never apart from ferrels shot some thing I did not need.
And often never fired a shot on full weekend hunting.
It was my strict rules on safety, shared by my insistence by my shooting mates that saw me put my guns away.
A mate who knew far better shot his wife in a panic on seeing a snake.
She survived they lived and loved for 25 years before implications killed her.
America gun culture is the subject, given a chance to vote on importing it here it would be opposed massively we do not want it.

Is it wrong to point out as I did with rechtub the nature of a post?
If so forgive me, but of late I have concerns about a few, growing but few, who write such posts then insult others for thinking differently.
That has taken place twice in this thread.
Very much aware at present of trolls in another form of media being very much worse than we ever saw here.
And hold no grudge against rechtub, just want him to be his own critic, as I think I am hence my diverting the thread.
I believe a day will come that sees an elected President of the USA, in his second term, tighten gun control.
Unfortunately that could lead to his murder while in office.
Another measure of Americans gun culture.

There is a valid reason that the American constitution allows the bearing of arms. Suppression of a population by force is not new and it is an option to governments right now.

So I have no issue with that aspect. In Australia they took our guns away and we have seen an ethnic group turn drive by shootings into a morning news item each and every day of the week, guns for the crims and victim status for the rest of us, I live in Sydney.

Long arms are fine but hand guns should be banned. But we should have the right to a long arm without registration or license.

Guns are fine, people are dangerous.

Just for some perspective on death in the US:
In 1960 the US had 179 million residents and 9110 murders.
In 2010 the US had 308 million residents and 14,748 murders.
The population grew by 70% and the murder rate increased by 60%. The society is statistically less murderous than 50 years ago.

sononfgloin,

"Guns are fine, people are dangerous."

Well that comment always appears to me as stupid. Guns are a tool that people use, and one that fires a lethal or maiming projectile at speed and distance with the mere click of a trigger.

Time to reprise this article.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,152220,00.html

"...less murderous...." - perhaps statistically, but it still seems fairly murderous to me.

Just thinking, sonofgloin, that I'd like to compare the statistics now and then for "people shot" in the US.

I'm presuming their hospitals and trauma units are now more adept at saving lives from gunshot injury.

Dear Poirot, about the survival rate now, it is certainly valid, mine are raw numbers and need interpretation and depth. But use the same macro thinking on my “people are dangerous” comment. Just as you can brutalize a dog, so you can a human. My comment cuts to the core, if society did not embrace violence as entertainment in every technological form the dogs would not be so quick to bite.

We have brutalized those susceptible ones in the X and Y generations with playstations and X boxes where the winner is the one who kills the most