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American Gun culture

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They say 6% of our pop are psychopaths ie they egocentric,compulsive disorder freaks who have little empathy for other humans.Hitler was not an aberation.There are many in power in both our Govts and Corps.They also have their fingers on the nukes.In the West they have developed these mini-nukes which they think will give them the upper hand in a fight against Russia/China.

Forget about small weapons in the hands of ordinary citizens.The really big danger is in our own Govts and the Corporations who control them.They think the world is too over populated and it is up to them to bring in their New World Order and control everyone and everything.See Agenda 21 and the Project for a New American Century.

http://globalresearch.ca/
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 2 September 2012 8:21:08 PM
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I think if you ban guns you should ban smoking, ban alcohol, ban baseball bats, ban boxing, ban violent computer games, ban violent movies, ban money, ban sex, ban knives, ban prescription drugs, ban cars and the list goes on.

It is not in the item that the crime is committed but it the misuse.

Teach people correct standards to live by.
Take away temptations, excuses or reasons for such behaviour (eg video games)
Properly punish and help change those who break the law.

A law is the last bastion of defence in society to protect from wrongdoing. It is the keep in the middle of the castle, behind the moat, wall, defenders, archers and oil. It is the thing that, if all else were to fail we would hope that it would survive. But the reality is, if the rest is overcome, the keep will eventually fall with time. We need to start again to teach people what is right, and how we should live properly rather than rely on laws or government or even schools to do it.

Seems to me that a return to true Christian values in the family and in the personal life would do more to prevent gun crime than another law.
Posted by RandomGuy, Sunday, 2 September 2012 8:30:38 PM
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I am both surprised and baffled by the thought gun ownership,even for some in Australia equals freedom.
And that, in anyway, this thread is about our country.
So let me turn it on its head, arjay warns of nuts among us, no defense.
What if you stood this morning in your local coffee out let waiting, knowing 2 in three waiting with you had a gun in their pocket.
How would you react to the radio telling you a mass shooting was taking place at your child's school.
Why do suburban living folk need a gun.
How can anyone take our new poster serious when he/she tells us that gun ownership is no different than that list.
What freedom for the dead by gun.
Explain to me why America needs guns in these numbers but no other western country does.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 3 September 2012 6:04:45 AM
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The lack of Law protection for our citizen is a qualifying factor to own a gun.
Posted by individual, Monday, 3 September 2012 6:19:05 AM
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Belly, never in the past 50 plus years has an Australian been allowed to walk in to a coffee shop with a hand gun in their bag.

Poirot
Please explain to me why gun related deaths (intentional) have increased here since the introduction of gun control laws?

You lot make out that by having the right to own a gun, means we will all go out and declare open season on anyone we dislike.

It's just plain nonsense, it didn't happen before gun laws and in fact, most gun owners are very responsible operators.

Let's face it, nutters are nutters and, if we brought back capital punishment for the serious offenders, they may well think twice before going on that rampage.

All they do now, if they are convicted, is go off to gaol, with other nutters, proud of their new trophy.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 3 September 2012 6:55:44 AM
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rehctub,

We are discussing here American gun culture.

You do realise that American hospitals are filled daily with people who have been shot. As I said, over 30,000 "deaths" a year - and many many thousands more hospitalised because of wouding. Not to mention the almost weekly mass shootings by ordinary Americans of other ordinary Americans.

It happens all the time because guns (as you know) are very dangerous tools. They can kill and maim at a distance. They need to be treated with respect (as you know) and, therefore, in my opinion, should only be accessed under very tight controls.

Do you have a problem with that?
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 3 September 2012 8:36:30 AM
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