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RIP ALP?

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Ludwig! I am shocked, Labor clowns?
Four liberals GOT EXPELLED!
Abbott one of them.
A fifth faithful cattle dog,from the Servant Nats went too.
I thought the tent opened today.
It was yesterday! silly me missed it!
However on again today, quite Right too every day.
My mum had a special stick for acting like that!
In politics I have to find reason to laugh or find my self crying.
is she gone yet?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 12:20:12 PM
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So poor old Tony got ‘imself ejected from the ‘ouse!!

Hahaha!

No one’s condemning him for the single simple remark that got him booted out, are they? No one’s calling him a lawless or parliamentarily disrespectful leader, are they?

Nope. No one’s thinking poorly of him at all for having to do the slow slouching walk of shame out of the chamber (while battling to hide the smile on his face as to how amazingly easy it was to make history and become the first leader to be ejected in 26 years!!)

In fact, he’s probably gained a few brownie points as a result!!

<< is she gone yet? >>

Nope. Me good mate Tony is not PM yet!! As soon as he gets the top job, the red-headed one will go the way of the dodo…..

....and then we will fiiinally have a GOOD Labor leader, b’coz by that time the party will have seen the great sense in Luddy’s proposal and decided that old Bob Carr is indeed the right choice for their new leader!!
Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 2:53:11 PM
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See we are still in our cubby house, is it a tree top one? I like trees
My fear true honest and fairdinkum, is Gillard is getting that lift not from good deeds but Abbotts bad ones.
The bloke, along with Pyne and Julie Bishop,the other one is getting too old to make it to the dispatch box.
Act like naughty girls from Saint Trinians, well not Tony no doubting his man hood.
Slouching in his chair he best resembles a snear on legs.
IS LOOKING SHAKY.
I will hurt if he goes and she stays!
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 6:08:14 PM
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No point in keeping a thread alive for two or three people.
So this is my last in this one.
First, all jokes aside, it is my unshakable view Gillard must go.
That while she leads Labor can never win an election.
And that men, in big numbers, ALP or not, will never vote for her.
Yet the lie within a lie, that she knowingly lied, about carbon tax, is just that,*a known lie*
In the 17 days we did not know who had won/gained support to govern, she and Abbott, took on board what those they needed wanted.
Gillard *without doubt* took the greens demands, those demands had been a part of two at least Independents as well.
Labor, its knife welding leader, wanted a trading scheme.
As is always the case they took what was on offer, to govern.
Abbott would have done so.
History, it has happened before, will look back with better vision on these days.
Labor, by installing Gillard, has as in 1975, helped the Tory,s.
But too as has happened before, history will be very cruel to Abbott,s tea party faction of this oppersition.
And his party trying still to bury the very bones of todays lost leaderless oppersition.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 5:23:22 AM
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The NT landslide has taken place
An election that saw Labor hide its name, its very brand, from voters.
No way around this to use a well known saying, it is time.
Time to ask why was Rudd dumped.
Why was Gillard installed.
Why with great Labor policy's, mixed in with junk like cash for clunkers have our true believers even left us.
And why in a battle to control the party have its grass roots , its members been sidelined.
An educated guess? maybe, but here are my views.
Rudd, maybe Rude but determined to push his better mining tax, frightened my party's would be owners, power brokers.
He too wanted and end, to Union control,again not in the hands of many but those power brokers.
So he had to go? once men like Charlie Oliver had that unquestioned power, head of the AWU his word was law, not now!
Gillard? a mystery within a mystery! she from the left, ONCE had the wood on Abbott.
Was that the reason the right took this refugee from the left, a left that is the very reason the right exists to keep from distroying our party?
From the day she took power she lacked the very thing that seemingly put her there, the ability to even hold her own with Abbott.
A seeming determination not to explain her actions, not to defend her self, to rely on? Abbott's negativity and an expected but so far wrong view voters would pick her over him.
What keeps her there?
Is it those power brokers? their egos? not wanting to see Kevin 07 back and their ego bruised?
Would they rather the partys near death? maybe but.
Continued
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 26 August 2012 3:10:05 AM
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BLACKMAIL may be the answer here, on the night Kev said he would change, offered to leave if it did not work, power brokers may have offered a great deal more than we know of.
Gillard may have been promised no knifing, others may be threatening to leave on the day the party and its, history/members/future is put before her.
Labor may be unable to move, without the Greens leaving power to Abbott.
Voters await , they do not all understand politics, or even care, elections are won by such as Kevin Rudd and John Howard,because of the way they look or talk.
And lost by such as Gillard because? I see the womanly nature in her, no do not giggle,I see her acting like a petulant female not a politician!
She could have been invincible!
But she, seemingly trying to protect her inner self, REFUSED TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT CARBON TAX.
She as Abbott would have dealt to get power.
She only had to FIRMLY SAY as a result of wheeling and dealing we had to do, I am sorry to say we will have a carbon tax, instead of the planned longer term trading scheme.
Tasmania next, even I know that would take place even under Rudd.
A shameful shadow of the once proud ALP is in power there, but a puppet of the Greens, it may take 30 years to get power back there.
So I burn the midnight oil, suffering a result I knew was to come, put on an old pair of hobnailed boots and trample on the feet of my partys future.
Those who live a life I never can, who are both players in the dieing power brokers game and our party's future.
Should I refrain? sit in a corner and be silent?
NEVER Bill Shorten, Paul Howe's, know you are men I idolize, but too hold guilty of forgetting me, my mates my party.
Bill or Kevin, maybe the two together now is the time.
I will never have your lifestyles but I will until death put my party first.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 26 August 2012 3:35:12 AM
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