Hay Wobbley, I thought that was supposed to be big oil that paid the dissenters.

Ludwig old mate, I'm the one who has had 4 different careers.

I'm the one who chucked up the security thing, & went sailing around the Pacific Islands.

I guess my disgust with these so called leaders is intensified as I was too damn busy extracting experience out of this life, to have time to bother to look in the past.

Now the body can't handle flying off aircraft carriers, [as if we still had one], racing cars, sailing around the Pacific, riding show jumpers, or even breeding cattle, I've got too much time to look & see what a lousy bunch of "C" graders we have.

Of course we are not alone in this. From what I did notice, & have read since slowing down, the whole western world must be about as badly lead as it has ever been.

When you look back at fools like Fraser, Gorton & a few of the others, they were virtually harmless, as they never did much. Today we have even more stupid folk, doing far too much damage, because they think they know. God help us.

If Europe, or the US were any better led it would not be so bad, but if anything their lot are worse.

Still keeps me interested if nothing else.

Hasbeen,

Big Oil are certainly one of the primary funders of the global (so-called) Think Tanks behind the dissenters while locally it seems to be the miners who are more obviously paying for the biassed media commentary and footing the accommodation bills for visiting "experts".

Go to http://sourcewatch.org/index.php and do a search on whatever group is making contrary statements and look at who funds them.

You can also search on who funds or promotes individual commentators, such as http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute/Global_warming_experts

Then again you can just let somebody like Alan Jones do all your thinking for you, repeat whatever conspiratorial slogans are doing the rounds and sound well informed.

jayb was not being sexist just self descriptive.
I find it good that some clearly see their own faults.
We will, those of us still about, see the issue very much alive and proved next decade.

Belly: jayb was not being sexist just self descriptive.
We will, those of us still about, see the issue very much alive and proved next decade.

No I wasn't. & that's what they said about the Ozone layer. Belly please propose a solution, other than a Carbon tax, for AGW.

Oops, http://news.yahoo.com/does-tree-ring-study-put-chill-global-warming-170718316.html

More scientific data.

Oh dear...lol...the greens are bad.
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