Will Labor never learn. A couple of Labor mugs in the form of NSW Party secretary Sam Dastyari and chief government whip Joel Fitzgibbon are running the "put The Greens last" campaign. Naturally, these closet conservatives are part of the Labor right the mob who abandoned Labor principles years ago, assuming they had principles in the first place. These blokes have as much political savvy as Bozo the Clown. Check out the wonderful job they done for NSW Labor at the last state election. What's their motive see if they can do a 'better' job on federal Labor than they done else where and put Abbott in control with a bigger majority than O'Farrell has in NSW.

Paul you need to touch base with reality.
This morning headline story is[even bigger head lines than evidence Australia no longer hears Gillard , and Labor no longer hears its members] is the Labor left has joined in.
My dislike of the greens is not based on Labors needs.
I think of Australia.
Hans-Christian- Anderson could not have put together such a fairy tale as your party's policy's.
In my view, my description of naked Morris Dancers deep in the Forrest lets some of them of lightly.
That goose from Marickville council!
It is time!
So very many uninterested voters see only the false front that is the greens.
Uninterested in truth they waste votes fleeing to the lost waste lands of radical policy's and dreams turning to night mares.
As greens try to rule on 12% of the votes deaths come supported by a party wanting to be a Dictatorship.
I think my views on upper houses are well proved now the debate has been highlighted.
And why should any vote have more than one value?

Belly, I would never expect you to vote for progressive ideas, as a rabid conservative you are comfortable holding your reactionary views.
You support the NSW right of the ALP, the home of the corrupt and the abode of the criminal, wallowing in sleaze.
A bit of the latest news from Labor in NSW:

"DISGRACED former state (Labor) MP Karyn Paluzzano faces time in jail after admitting she rorted entitlements and gave false evidence during the ICAC inquiry that led to a crushing by-election defeat. She will be sentenced by Magistrate Julie Huber on August 9."

She can keep busy in jail shacking hands with old Labor cronies, there are plenty of them in there, just keep a cell vacant for Craig Thomson. I'll answer that question you never would,
LONG BAY JAIL IS NSW LARGEST BRANCH OF THE LABOR PARTY LOL.

You might call her a goose, but I'm proud to count Marrickville Councillor Fiona Byrne as a friend of mine.
Tell me Belly is Karyn Paluzzano a friend of yours? She sure fits the model for a Labor politician. How is Milton? Still playing with the boys?

@ Luciferase,

<<Yeah, SPQR, and it's amazing how your mob is able to instantly "process" them on the high sea>>

A couple of pertinent points:

I consider “my mob” to be the Australian electorate-- it's a pity you didn't similarly identify!

I’m not one of the its-my-part-right-or-wrong crew. I'm neither a member of the Liberals or Labor.

As I said before we can do much by simply tightening our processes—we keep hearing and seeing how flawed they are again:
<<“Australia gives citizenship if you have a good story… They will know you are lying, but as long as you say the same thing whatever they ask you, you will be fine.">>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/18/afghanistan-people-smugglers-taliban-europe

and again
<<“Australia gives citizenship if you have a good story… They will know you are lying, but as long as you say the same thing whatever they ask you, you will be fine.">>

and again
<<“Australia gives citizenship if you have a good story… They will know you are lying, but as long as you say the same thing whatever they ask you, you will be fine.">>

But those in power keep side stepping and want to create more and more committees of Yes-Minister appointees to look at “regional solutions” etc.

"I’m not one of the its-my-part-right-or-wrong crew. I'm neither a member of the Liberals or Labor."
SPQR From your posts I thought you were a member of The Australia First Party. Your views certainly fit in with theirs

Paul yes you are stung! and angry, but your insults bounce off like rice at a wedding.
My post history includes thousands of words insulting the very faction I live for.
Reminding the right of its betrayal of me, and its rank and file.
I would deep fry half of them, that woman with them.
But I rejoice! in the new life of center unity, it took guts to come out against the black mailing greens.
Say as you will greens own the dead boat people 800 of them.
How many more? to prop up brain dead women who them selves by their actions kill their own party your lost and useless greens.
If you want such politics be brave!~
Name them as they are!
Combined Socialist left overs party of the last 50 years