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They actually believe their own spin.
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Posted by runner, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 2:40:42 PM
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Here we are, James Kunstler can say it better than I can;
http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/06/hazardous-games.html He has a way with words that does leave you with a grim smile. Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 3:15:45 PM
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Dear runner,
A few clarifications: As Ian McAuley, a lecturer in public sector finance at the University of Canberra and a fellow at the Centre for Policy Development points out: "The Coalition had the fortune to hold office in good economic times - when the Howard government enjoyed the dividends of the Hawke-Keating economic reforms, and when the world economy was enjoying a long speculative-driven boom. Good luck, perhaps, but not good management. In actual fact the Howard government's economic report card is overall a dismal one." McAuley tell us that: " the claimed virtue of leaving the books in surplus of 4 per cent of GDP when it left office - indeed the Howard government did achieve a series of suplus budgets: that is not difficult in a time of strong economic growth which delivered very high tax revenue." "But the Howard government also left Australia with significant liabilities in terms of our physical and intangible assets - our common wealth. It neglected our surface transport - our interstate roads, railroads, urban public transport. It starved our tertiary education sector of funds. It neglected investments which could help us to cope with the challenges of water shortages, climate change and fossil fuel depletion. In short, it let fiscal impression management, displace sound economic management and directed political attention to only one side of the balance sheet, the debt side, while ignoring the asset side. If the Howard cabinet had been the board of a publicly listed company, the shareholders would have thrown them out for weakening the company's asset base." Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 3:25:40 PM
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Lexi
'As Ian McAuley, a lecturer in public sector finance at the University of Canberra and a fellow at the Centre for Policy Development points out:' You really are getting totally desperate in defending your hero. Just look at the Centres website and you will see its filled with leftist propaganda. Check out the Howard haters on the Board. Surely you can do better than that. Most of the general public has even woken up to the dud Government. Posted by runner, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 3:37:05 PM
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Lexi,
The health care subsidy was intended to encourage the more affluent to self fund some of their health care. This efficiently reduced the required expenditure by the government by more than the cost of the subsidy. The indications from the health funds is that 80% of those losing their subsidies intend to reduce their health cover (but still not pay the surcharge) with a resulting increased pressure on public health and reduced services for those on low incomes. I for one have pre paid my health cover for the next 18 months and so get the subsidy until labor are tossed out of office. Also McAuley (hardly unbiased) forgot to mention that the mining boom today yields 4x as much tax today than in 2007, and the huge surplus left by the coalition was squandered in record time by Labor leaving us the greatest federal debt in dollar terms ever. Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 3:50:19 PM
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Gentlemen,
All I will say to you both is that economic credibility does count in voter land. All the petty political and hyped grandstanding will stop working eventually. The Opposition's economic credentials look raggedy, at best - and the $70 billion black hole argument will keep getting regurgitated because there is no answer. It will intensify before the next election. The debate will re-focus on the Opposition's costings and plans - including its direct-action plan and its internally divisive new tax to pay for some strange and expensive parental leave scheme. The certainty on an Abbott victory will be lessened. Mr Abbott has taken up every position possible on just about everything. He's gone from skepticism to warm embrace, to horrified opposition, to apparent indifference to concentrating on the PM's trustworthiness as he accused her of having broken an election promise not to introduce a carbon tax. And the list goes on. We're now hearing of a "transformation" of Mr Abbott. We'll have to see whether wearing glasses and reading his speeches will help improve his image. Smiling less may also help make him appear more intelligent. It would be embarrassing if he got dumped by a nervous party - should there be a slide in the polls. Because lets not forget his desperation to become PM. Only a desperate politician could offer one Independent a $1 billion hospital if he backed a Coalition minority government. I believe his mentor - Mr Howard did something similar. Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 6:33:45 PM
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'Some people simply don't realise just how lucky they
are. '
I would call it blessed. It is however a result of good economic management from Costello/Howard who had to deal with the last Labour deficits. Some people are to blinded to realise this simple truth. The wastage in the last 5 years with nothing to show but totally shrunk superannuation screams a message. Now we need more and more taxes in order to pay for this idiotic waste. It is going to take years of a responsible Government before we recover again.