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Paul yes me too, but unlike you I can wait for the court outcome.
You have told me often I am near fascist and right extra but now you play the roll of vigilant/Abbott's mate.
Do we ignore the law and hang the beggar?
Or wait and let the courts do it, what if they find him Innocent? will you share with conservatives the guilt?
I think he will be found not guilty of some,guilty of others, Jackson seems guilty,her partner.
The other bloke? life will not be enough.
Paul you disappoint me,lefty and proud you carry the lynch mobs rope and gloat at the thought of using it.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 3:22:50 PM
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Belly in my 40 year working life I've met some good liars, Thomson is not one of them. Unfortunately there are worse villeins than Abbott attacking the worker. At least with the likes of the Abbotts of this world they don't make much of a secret as to where their allegiance lay.
However there are maggots who will use the the worker to feed off for their own selfish gains. These slags are not worth p%$ing on.
My partner has worked for years for 20 odd bucks an hour in a large public hospital as a PSA, and paid her union dues $23/fortnight supported the HSU when others would not, she knows plenty about Thompson and Williamson their game was an open secret, I have no sympathy for the likes of these two, my partner has now lost her union coverage and out of her paltry wage paid for a couple of grubs to live the high life.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 7:57:29 PM
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Paul 1405 just a thought.
I started this thread.
A real life Belly [high maintenance] one.
Because? I demand EVERY UNION be accountable, for every cent of members money.
Made no secrete,here and in other threads, I think the bloke and his accuser, along with the union head, are grubs.
In this thread I called for disbanding of the union!
And complained BITTERLY,of union power brokers controlling my party.
I would, with out payment, return to work today defending workers rights.
BUT NEVER turn a blind eye to such as this.
Now, are you hoping for more growth for your greens,they need Labor in trouble to prosper.
Or do you truly agree with Abbott's backers, including HOWARD, that any means justifies the end results.
Even abandoning our laws Innocent until proven guilty?
Paul what ever Labor fate is this country needs the decline of greens to move forward.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 4:38:07 AM
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lol..innocent till proven guilty
what is a govt orded inquiry..that runs 4 years
who found him guilty

its not some muggins complaining
its based on a govt report..[doing what anybody...appointed as goivt watch dog will..*must do..it had to be done..so was dun slowly[4 years]

but their findings are FINDINGS OF FACT*
not just complaints or runours..we got the full fact
EVEN in the..';fairwork farce..they presented their case[he refuted none of its main FINDINGS*]..next the jury goes out and judges

he had his trial
in the highest court..[where the laws get made]
and simpletons get told..he deserves a trial..yes he does
[but the criminals so run the henhouse...there wont ever be one..

alp boys club fixed it
well thats not justice being seen to be done..

the dude must be blackballed
out of his comfortable place
find out the hardship clause..of public accountability/let alone accountability to his trust..the unionists he continues to lie to

you cant get him
cause his type owns the union....now*..
and to top it all off he is likely mason/or rotery..or apex..of all 3..
was the guy a lawyer[over 60%..of polititions are or were lawyers
and ya know lawyers defend criminals

say nuthing
stay silent
[yet silence signifies concent..[and he was silent for far too long..]
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 7:32:59 AM
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Belly I fully agree with you that Thomson is entitled to his day in court. The presumption of innocent until proven guilty has nothing to do with the right or obligation to sit in parliament. With the 'cloud' that is hanging over Thomson, the honorable thing to do, would be to abstain oneself from the house until this is completely cleared up, one way or another. there are many precedents for this both federally and state. Take the Greiner case in the NSW parliament when Greiner was forced to resign as premier before he had his day in court, and I agree Greiner was right in resigning at the time, even though he was later cleared in court. Greiner's resignation was brought on by Labor and independents. and who was one of those independents Tony Windsor. Windsor is now shown to apply double standards, what a hypocrite. Windsor for one is trying to save his political scalp.
I had no liking for Greiner or his party, still don't, no more than I have a liking for Thomson.
Please answer this one. If an employee is accused of stealing from his employer which the employee denies. If Fair Work Australia makes an adverse finding against the employee, should he keep his job until he has had his day in court, or should he be dismissed on the finding of FWA alone? It is very common practice for people to be sacked for stealing without ever being charged by police.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 8:00:15 AM
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Greiner was found to have done nothing wrong in the inquiry that took place.
After he was forced to leave.
OUG you present a view few could agree with.
FWA by just the time it took to hand down this report.
By some of its findings being found to be wrong, should one day soon stand in the dock with this bloke.
No finding of guilt has been proved until that day.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 3:58:28 PM
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