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Bill Kelty last night spoke at ACTU conference, many have.
But he spoke very well, along the lines I do.
Labor must not blame Abbott, not Medea, not even our lead weight Gillard.
We must confront a truth, many did not want Rudd, within the Parliament.
Before he got the leadership, during the time he lead.
His removal, even today,is the reason we are bogged and will remain so,unless Gillard gos.
NOTHING Labor can do, will bring middle Australia back,while Gillard still is seen to carry the knife.
Not the fine words to this conference by many, not the battle crys.
We won in 2007 by bringing the very same folk to us, that we drove away by dumping Rudd.
They never ever will come back to Gillard.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 17 May 2012 3:17:54 PM
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/bill-kelty-delivers-wise-advice-with-a-dose-of-truth/story-fn558imw-1226359313074
My words and love of the not radical section of the union movement.
The same,said on behalf of my ALP.
Have earned me enemy's here, within my party, and movement.
Yet I continue to hold my views tightly.
Once my dogged determination to fight the good fight won me Friends.
Now,just as determined to see both face the truth,and face the future and present not the past.
A past we can be proud of mostly, but should to be proud to better today.
Renewal is not a threat yesterdays men are just that,yesterdays ways should be just that.
WA, NSW, QLD,next Federal Government?
And some DARE to say she will be right mate?
We, both movements, stand this morning guilty,it is us who cover a scandal more than the equal of ANY we are charged with.
It is our *determination* to highlight Abbott, not our selves.
That lets press,all media, hide the CONSTRUCTED scandal, Liberal built and planned, Ashby Circus.
Worse than children over board, AWB this constructed LIE is emerging as evidence Labor must stop fueling its own bad publicity.
Admit Gillard was the wrong person elected after wrong actions.
Above all install Shorten and in his words lead!
Posted by Belly, Friday, 18 May 2012 4:50:07 AM
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Just for you Belly.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-17/hawke-sings-at-actu-congress/4017000
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 May 2012 7:53:11 AM
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Paul the Silver Bogey would go to the opening of a match box to be seen.
He is still a hero but his time has gone.
I have a song for Gillard and her Cabernet, it comes from my past.
As both union delegate, then official, as a certain manager started his talk.
The back row of workers made it hard not to grin as they any?
*Every thing is Beautiful, in its own way*
Just picture Swan and Gillard
Posted by Belly, Friday, 18 May 2012 4:15:06 PM
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I am not here to defend this union.
Not to change my opinion on anything I have said.
But based on my time as union official to ask questions and inform.
First credit card, yes every one knows the bosses credit card number.
In fact he/she the boss can book everyones rooms on every day stays away or national conferences.
So too can office managers or those he/she asks to.
I have used it on the phone for replacement tyers hundreds of klm away from home.
Drivers license are photo copy ed and held in offices.
Unions do have factions and in fighting.
Brutal and harsh it is a fact.
I find it hard to trust both sides of this internal war.
Think it probable both are guilty.
But take a breath, do please, if Parliament did as Abbott's hit man Pyne asks, judge now, before the court does, are we MAD?
Can we take on that roll? is it not a plank of our law Innocent until proving guilty?
Or is that only for non labor politicians?
Is it true a team was spieing under that window? while his wife was in the shower?
Is film in existance that will convict or not the bloke?
Any truth three of the charges are prove wrong.
in the end is Abbott's wish to become PM more important than letting the law take its course?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 6:16:23 AM
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Belly, I to watched the Thomson speech and it was a load of rubbish. The bloke failed to deny any involvement with prostitutes and the miss use of a union credit card. Thomson failed to answer how his phone was used to call prostitutes. The 'conspiracy theory' is beyond the truth, Thomson never ever mentioned Bolano to FWA, the first mention of any involvement in the business by Bolano was yesterday in Parliament. The union policy on spousal travel was 2 trips a year she had 14 in a about 4 years, one trip to Perth by Mrs Thomson without him was paid for by the HSU and had no connection with the union. As Jackson pointed out Thomson used the 'cowards castle' to blame this one and that one, yet wont get out in public and repeat these accusations.
As I said before my partner WAS a member of the HSU East, now resigned, and under Thomson and Williams the union become their personal cash cow.
There is no requirement for parliament to establish Thomson's guilt beyond reasonable doubt. The bloke should resign or Labor should reject his vote. As for Windsor, the mans a hypocrite, when he sat in the NSW Parliament he demand and got the resignation of Premier Greiner who was later exonerated by a court, Windsor is full of sanctimonious clap trap as are some members of the Labor Party, they will hang anyone when it suits them, but that is politics.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 8:06:49 AM
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