Belly,
Thanks for the links. The first relates to the current warm WEATHER we are experiencing. Reminds me of PM Rudd, just prior to departing for Copenhagen with his 100 strong entourage, claiming a couple of hot days in Adelaide was evidence of global warming. It is called WEATHER. Is not evidence that humans are responsible

I could counter with articles about record snow in UK and earliest snow in midwest USA, or Europe freezes and such but again it is WEATHER. Is not evidence that humans are responsible.

The second link is more to do with population growth in Asia and does not mention that Humans are responsible for climate change.

Phooey,
You are right the carbon tax is only about revenue raising.

The baby bonus was a stupid idea of Peter Costello's and supported now by both major parties. Probably both would like to get rid of it but are not game as it would cost votes. People do not like their freebies withdrawn.

I went to http://www.petitionproject.org/ and downloaded the petition which I've now sent to the Petition Project HQ in California.

I didn't know whether I should pitch myself as a BS (Bachelor Science), MS (Masters) or PhD.(Doctor) Stuff it, I thought, I'm none of 'em so if I'm going to lie I'll tell a big one and tick the PhD. box! Anyway there's now one more name on the list of over 31000.

I rather like the ring of "Doctor Luciferase", Austin P., but you may simply call me "Doc".

Dear SPQR,

Really? Is that it? I sincerely hope you are just clearing your throat my good fellow because what you have just served up to answer my question it hardly worth the effort in responding.

Of course historical CO2 levels lag temperature change. One only has to look at the yearly fluctuations in CO2 levels caused by the different land masses in each hemisphere. They drop through the northern hemisphere summers because there is greater uptake of CO2 by growing plants. They are part of a far greater biomass than present in the southern hemisphere.

As the ice extent retreated from the depths of each ice age it freed up land mass for biomass which in turn produces CO2 therefore the concentrations grew.

Why on earth is that relevant in our case? We are forcing the issue by doubling the CO2 concentrations through artificial means, the physical properties of which have climate implications.

That is what you need to address. I trust there is something much more substantial to come.

Here is a little prompter, try reading up on Milankovitch Cycles.

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In the meantime here is a little story for you.

A farmer decides to drain a lake and a wetland to increase the area of his farm for cropping. He dug the channel, breached the final wall and let her rip. The problem was he didn't tell his downstream neighbours one of whom ended up sitting on top of his ute calling the SES boys to come and give him a hand.

The controller (let's call him SPQR for relevance) on the other end wasn't so obliging. 'Mate' he said, 'You can be sitting in a heap of water because I have all the historical data in front of me and unless it has been raining in the foothills up stream, and I know for sure it hasn't, there is no way you can be sitting in water! Have you been drinking?'

'No you bloody fool, I'm waist deep in water watching my chook shed head off down river now get the lads to come and get me and let the others downstream know what is coming for them.'

'Not a chance!' came the terse reply 'you've either been on the sauce or someone's put you up to this, probably paid you a few quid to have a lend of me, either way I'm not having a bar of it! I would look like a fool!'

'Click'

Knee capping of Australian industry? That should have been put to bed when the head of Alcoa, one of the most energy intensive industries going, said the Carbon Tax has less impact than a 1 cent rise in the currency. Our mining sector is far more responsible for kneecapping industry.

The tax is not ideal, what is preferable is a cap and trade scheme. This would be far more effective in ensuring that we don't 'lock into a circling pattern over fossil fuels' and I hope we will succeed in transitioning to.

Is that something you might support if I can get you over the line on AGW?

Luciferase, is that a joke?

I just checked the website's list of signers by name and you're not on it.

Either you're pulling my chain or you did apply and, once your lack of credentials was made obvious, you were not added to the list. Still, in the spirit of fair-play (which you probably don't get), I'll check again in a few days. I know that there will be no difference.

I note that you have not disputed the credentials of the legitimate petition signers.

For your choice of credentials, you can have BS (bullsh1t), MS ( more sh1t) and PhD (piled high and deep).

Still, you have started off my weekend with a laugh. Keep 'em coming, this OLO site needs comedians.

What's up, doc?