CSteele,

<<Of course historical CO2 levels lag temperature change... Why on earth is that relevant in our case?>>

Because (my dear fellow) the AGW proposition is that CO2 is DRIVING warming.
If CO2 is NOT driving warming (but is a consequence of warming) the whole AGW hypothesis is null and void.

<<The controller (let's call him SPQR for relevance)... there is no way you can be sitting in water! ...>>

Now if there was a character called CSteele in that little narrative, he would have used his wealth of experience gleaned from years of working with leftwing lobby groups to solve the conundrum:
1) He would have seen that it hadn’t been raining –check
2) He would have seen that no dams were due to release water –check
3) And he would have quickly concluded it could only be the result of cicadas urinating in the river upstream.
4) He then would have done a quick calculation and determined that if the water continued to rise at the present rate for the next five years it would cover My Kosciusko.
5) Seeing this, and being civic minded, he would have alerted his mate Wayne Swan who would have promptly i) Appointed a National Cicada Commissioner & ii) Slapped 23% cicada tax on farmers .

SPQR: Now if there was a character called CSteele in that little narrative, he would have used.

He? He's a male. I thought, by the carry on, that he was a she. oops! Now there you go, another mistake. Damm!

Now heres one, I've just been looking through my little Collins Gem "Fact File." I came across "The 4 Temperaments or Humours." They are great little books, I’ve got a whole set of them.

Temperament: Sanguine, Melancholic, Choleric & Lethargic or Phlegm.
Humour: Blood, Black Bile, Yellow Bile & Phlegm.

My stance is still GW IS real. We didn't do all of it. Most of it is natural. Get onto Alternate Energy just to stick it to the big oil Companies for ripping us all off for years. The Carbon Tax is BS & won't be used to advance Alternate Energy.

http://www.acfonline.org.au/be-informed/climate-change/impacts-threats
Banjo I believe this link supports my view both more and less rain/storms/and out of season weather is part of global warming

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/nov/01/climate-change-weather-ipcc
This too more extensively, links to another link I posted.
Hard to ignore its contents.
Even harder, for me at least,to even consider the scientific world has made this up.

Hi Belly,

One 'maximum maximum' today as well, Perth again in 2005. Today and yesterday, that's effectively two 'maximum maximums' out of sixteen city readings in one decade, out of sixteen decades of readings. So yes, there is just the shade of a possibility on that score that some form of warming - at least in cities - is occurring.

Without too much difficulty, we could find that AGW is responsible for less rain, as Tim Flannery said. Or more rain, as you wrote. Or more perturbed weather events like cyclones. Or eerily calm weather too, I suppose. Or some forms of global cooling somewhere, thanks to the shifting of the Gulf Stream etc. Perhaps all that instability causes more volcanic eruptions and earthquakes.

In other words, if we stretch our imagination just a bit, every possible weather event can be attributed to AGW. Isn't it great to be certain of something, in today's uncertain world ?

Cheers,

Joe

Austin P. earnestly asks "Luciferase, is that a joke?"

Let' see, Austin P.. Firstly, do you think I'd be listed as Dr Luciferase? Secondly that my form would have got there yet and I'd be listed already? Thirdly, ANYBODY prepared to call themselves a PhD., or any of the other tick-box options, who wants to sway opinion by joining the petition, can simply send in a form and be accepted as a signatory as there's no vetting procedure!

If that's not a joke, what is? I think I'm in agreement with csteele, you have a gall remaining on this thread!