Oh Joe, lighten up old fella.....you might want to enjoy some of Fester's humor along with esteels wit or lack of it:)

Esteel should remember this and some of her comments that went with it:).....my photographic mind does not miss these little snippets, but playing to the idiots of this like most Australians banker mentality, I just choose not to bite.

You know the old convict saying,"never argue with an idiot" and there's no shortage of them in QLD.....go and laugh that one off H. bay bankers. Private fun message:) Some really think being smart is something to do with their mouth...lol....what Dic...heds.

Joe said....Have a nice day!...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcokL59jeqU

Oh and esteel....if you want to take me to court, well what are you waiting for:)

Oh dear...lol

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plant, you wrote 'Funny how its only American scientists'. The very point I made in my first post was 'If that list is only for American scientists, how many more worldwide do not believe the myth of man-made climate change?', which you conveniently ignored. Don't let the facts get in the way of your theories.
To make it worse, you claim that the bible-belt has control of American scientists - are you serious??!!
Again, like Luciferase, you see conspiracy theories here. How's about you explain that?
As for 'One out of 31,487 ain't so bad is it', why don't you agree?
As for being a plant in the forum, I didn't mean a vegetable. See if you can work out another meaning for 'plant' - apart from heavy machinery and veggies etc.

Luciferase, you will have to be more lucid. Are you in the minority or are the 31,000 plus in the minority.
BTW, is your obsession with Seitz a smoke screen so that no-one will believe the thousands of other scientists who you can't discredit?

The sky is not falling. The rain was falling last night.

Gezzz..where all full of insults today. No Mr powerless, I use the term plant for maybe what your smoking. I when calling you out for using conspiracies, however you have me there:) The US Government or any institution that has whistleblowers," Julian assange " and that can panic the public.

Julian Assange is the controversial public face of WikiLeaks, an international website that gives whistleblowers an anonymous way to publish sensitive documents. WikiLeaks has published leaked documents on hundreds of topics, including oil scandals in Peru, the Church of Scientology, climate research, the contents of a Sarah Palin email account, and procedures for the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay.

In April of 2010 it released Collateral Murder, leaked video of a deadly 2007 U.S. Army helicopter attack on Iraqi citizens, and in July of that year it released more than 92,000 documents relating to the war in Afghanistan. White-haired, secretive and nomadic, Julian Assange has lived long periods in Australia, Kenya, Sweden, and other countries.

And.....wasn't he nicely stitched up for his going against the US government.
Your right to an extent of which the sky for sure isn't falling, however the planet is under siege.

How much time do you think we have before the finial straw brakes the camel's back. I'll just stick to the first post and its contents, you know:) keep on topic.

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Dear SPQR,

Come on mate, I know we have locked horns previously but I always thought you more than capable of putting together a good argument and of recognising the indefensible when you see it.

That last post was not your finest effort.

One thing I learned early on with posting on OLO, you needed to have your facts straight because if you didn't sooner or later you would get caught out. In the early days I will admit to having retreated with my tail between my legs after a lazy effort found me out.

And JayB got caught out badly on this occasion, there is no way to spin it otherwise. He quoted a Washington Post newspaper article from 1922, the contents of which had been doctored in the retelling by someone keen to further an anti-GW agenda. The last line stuck out like the proverbial dog's balls which is why I made the effort to check. He did not and since he posted it in the first place he needs to take ownership of it and face the consequences.

Then you go and claim; “The aim of the article was illustrate that species were extending their range towards the equator, and the seas have been rising long before it became fashionable to notice.”

Really? I think JayB's sloppiness is catching. Have you even read the article? It talked about species extending their range toward the poles not the equator, and further there was absolutely no mention what so ever about rising sea levels. The aim of the article was tp detail some of the observed effects of a stronger than normal Gulf Stream. Nothing more.

Therefore sir, you do yourself little credit by stating; “So ,in conclusion, it is NOT an error in Jay’s article/citation.” when in reality that is exactly what it is.

I want the old SPQR back please.

Now perhaps you can be the one who will enlighten me as to why I should ignore the physics of a doubling of atmospheric CO2. The others seem to be struggling with it.

CSteele,

<< Really? I think JayB's sloppiness is catching. Have you even read the article? It talked about species extending their range toward the poles not the equator>>

“How absolute the knave is! We must speak by card or equivocation will undo us”

You are right about the direction –my error.

You are right about it not being sourced from “scientists”.
And you are right about it not mentioning AGW.
(At the time the acronym had not been invented. Any CSteele of the 1920s would have been fussing over global freezing or the latest Charleston steps).

But all of these are quibbles about minor points.

This is what your PDF says:
“The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers who sail the seas above Spitzbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in Arctic conditions and hitherto unheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earths surface”

That is exactly what we hear almost daily from the warmist sources. I could not count the number of documentaries the ABC or SBS has run which say exactly that, and present it as a first time happening –and solid evidence of AGW.This is I believe, the point Jay was trying to get across to you.

<<Now perhaps you can be the one who will enlighten me as to why I should ignore the physics of a doubling of atmospheric CO2. The others seem to be struggling with it.>>
I’ll answer that one when you tell me how OZ adopting the carbon tax will save the world.

SPQR: You are right about it not being sourced from “scientists”.
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers.
I with you SPQR, I wonder who the hell expedition leader Dr Adolf Hoel was, if not a scientist of his day. He must have been some dole bludger of the street with a long line & a thermometer who thought it might be fun to test the temperature at a depth of 3100 meters. God I’m a facetious B@$t@rD, sorry.
cSteel: I think JayB's sloppiness is catching. Sorry. A momentary distraction & being in a hurry led me astray. I hope you have all had your needles.
CSteel I have never heard any comment on http://sahultime.monash.edu.au/explore.html, or is that something you choose to ignore, as it shows variation of world climate patterns over a long period of time. In fact no one has mentioned it. Strange.