Yes I get it too we put Gillard and Abbott in the Nashos and send them to?
No idea how we got so far from both the thread and reality.
But if we get them in to uniform why not send them to say France? to observe what happens in country's divided.

What National Service basically achieves is putting young people either with or without direction onto the path of togetherness.
Whitlam abolished National Service because of conscription & the Vietnam fiasco. It was his election promise that got him in & we're paying for it now.
We do not need military National Service as such because for that we have our armed forces. What we need is a non-military national Service. It would immediately solve unemployment, homelessness, lack of discipline, crime would fall dramatically, young people learn skills both psychological & practical in readiness to enter the workforce. The list of benefits is long. The cost ? I'd think way less then what the present fiasco costs us plus the positive long-term improvement in the mentality of our society. It's a win/win situation.

Yes I could go along with that sort of national service. But not before we get a government that can properly manage it and really achieve some of things that are desperately in need of doing from it rather than just concentrating on discipline and commitment.

You’d also have to be mindful of the possible backlash, if lots of people refused to do it or if the majority of the populace wouldn’t vote a government back in that introduced it.

You’d no doubt also get some people who would think that if they were compelled to do national service, the country would then definitely owe them a living.

All in all, not as easy or as beneficial as it sounds.

My problem is that I just cannot see why so many people seem to hate Tony Abbott.
What has he done that is so dreadful ?

Is it because he is not so handsome, has a slight speach impediment and big ears ?
He certainly does not speak as well as say Malcolm Turnbull and into
the bargain he rides a bike and walks with a waddle !

I would have thought we would have had enough of charismatic show ponies.

Dear Bazz,

We can no longer afford to buy new TVs.
Every time Mr Abbott appears on the screen -
my husband picks up the shotgun. ;-)

Can some one show me the link to National service and this threads subject?
We all divert threads but this is far more than that.
Bazz? now be fair dinkum, do you hate Gillard?
Is she hated by any one?
So what is the difference?
Before his leadership how much did you know about Abbott, do you know as a result of his blocking a drug a young couple faced prison for importing it.
About his health cuts.
Do you have the intestinal fortitude to read anti Abbott pages and his own book.
What will you do after his victory, he approaches one, with very few policy's he can deliver or intends to.
What do we make of us? Australians who fear the bloke? are we mad? traitors, are we just maybe right to say this country needs better than both.
What the polls, soon yellow backed ALP members will have no choice but to dump Gillard.
Now think.
Any problems with me saying that? then why are we haters for targeting Abbott?
Do I need a spell? a month in the paddock? I am increasingly frustrated at the intrusion of *Individual* with unrelated or insulting posts in threads.
Are our rules for real? diversion is killing this one.