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Hobsons Choice or no choice?

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The link highlights two landslide victory's for Liberals and massive majority's.
It judges QLD a bit harshly too early, give them time they after all won a mandate.
See however the start to dismantling new power energy projects.
NSW got a mention, while I like ALP new directions most will know I talked of that landslide for 12 months before.
NO ONE should forget how bad we had become.
So while unhappy with some changes the failures of my party are as much responsible as big Barry,I am not ready to get stuck into him yet.
It can not, surely be said the links thoughts, both leaders are unloved is wrong?
Did we all see in the link questions about both sides?
Did we see that as of yet Tony Abbott has not focused on policy's, he need not do so.
Labor keeps presenting him with HSU Slipper and while the bloke wastes the air he breaths knifing Wilkie was a typical Gillard act, she has less know how than my two dogs.
My complaints are in the interests of my party.
My concerns about these 4th rate leaders come in the interests of AUSTRALIA.
A third landslide took place Big Mal before he lost his trousers won both houses.
Without policy's he frittered his power away and today stands unwanted by his party.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 28 April 2012 4:46:10 PM
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Belly find a new Party.The Coalition are not much better.There are so many people like you who are dis-affected,there is a real need for a new and honest party.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 28 April 2012 5:44:38 PM
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Dear Belly,

I'm not as critical of the PM as you are. To me
she's done extremely well in such a toxic environment
as she's had to deal with. I doubt if anyone could have
done any better. Male or female. Take the current fuss
over the "slipper" case as an example.

A widespread fallacy has been advanced that the Government
"installed" Mr Slipper. Whereas in fact - Mr Slipper was
already the deputy speaker and was elected by the floor
of the House, including by Labor, three Independents, and
a Green. He occupies a position constitutionally and
administratively separate from the executive.

But hey, why worry about constitutional niceties when there's
the possibility of blood on the floor.

To me the current Government is governing constitutionally,
supported by a majority of the representatives voted in
by the Australian people and the Speaker has so far not
been found guilty of anything.

Mr Abbott when asked did he know of any Liberal Party
involvement in the Slipper case?

Mr Abbott's reply was:

"I have no specific knowledge."

The weasel word being "specific."
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 28 April 2012 6:41:04 PM
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Belly,
Perhaps i should have been more direct in my first post.

I read Hartcher's commentary early this morning and I think he is wrong, as you and Labor is in putting so much emphasis on the leader. You are looking for a messiah when you want a good solid captain of a team. Many film/pop stars are overnight sensations but fade quickly when their abilities, or lack of, are exposed. No football captain can claim he won the premiership on his own.

I want a government that steadies the ship and spends within our means. I do not want new, half baked ideas each week that are illconceived and pander to the Greens. The green schemes must be first to go.

As for the media, which you keep on about, I recall almost universal praise for Gillard when she appointed Slipper as speaker. How politically astute she was to get the jump on the Libs and she could tell Wilkie to 'go jump' for his pokie reform. It is now just another embarrassment for the government. Do you expect the media to praise Labor when there is nothing to praise them for? The stuff ups started when Rudd increased the immigration rate and welcomed the illegal boat people and has continued ever since.

I have never made any bones about it, I think this government is the worst since Federation and I want to see them gone ASAP. The only other choice we have is the Libs, whoever their leader.

So the longer Labor continues to worry about the leader and not the rest of the team, the more it suits me and i think thousands like me.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 7:14:20 PM
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not much to the topic
i guess i want simply a govt that rules

within the egsisting rules..not feels it needs to bring in destractions/policy/new taxes/lurks for the lobbiests

you know simple governance..that isnt about revenue raising
or govt adgendas..or selling stuff..a public service
not a nanny

im sick of the baby kissing..and julia only talking to kids
sure it worked for rudd..but he loved kids enough to have his own

julias proxy..is as fake as her narrow hip cut jacketts
she is cutting to wide a strip..using too broad a brush
its not her vision or lack of it..its that she thinks..its her duty to reform..anything she wants

her mark in history..will only be cause of her sex
not her..150 new govt laws/taxes/levies/3000 school halls

a failing education system
and silver foils..pink bats..and bleach
bottle scull cap[helmutt hair]..no chin..to much testosterone[too obsessive re toney..[cant open her mouth without blaming him[for her missgovernances]
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 28 April 2012 8:36:39 PM
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Hobsons choice or no choice?

Yeah, exactly Belly.

Two peas in a pod. One identity; the Liblabs, with the one political direction.

No leader can get either part out of the quagmire. No leader can regain any sort of respect from the Australian populace for their politicians. No leader can actually make their party appealing enough for the voters to support.

Come election time, the voters will yet again be voting for the party they think is the slightly lesser evil of two highly undesirable choices of government.

This seething resentment is very bad news. It is just going to get worse and worse until there is major civil unrest….

Unless…..

Unless we get a government that embraces sustainability, makes itself independent of big business influence, lowers immigration to net zero, concentrates on per-capita economic growth instead of gross national product, promotes renewable energy and value-added industries with a vengeance, and bloody well starts doing what a government is supposed to do – look after the quality of life of its citizens, now and into the distant future!!

It’s not the leaders, it’s the policies, or I should say; the whole political direction, that is the problem.
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 28 April 2012 9:09:27 PM
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